Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[run pMc]

and swapping of this years firsts

so they get 3 firsts and a 3rd for the #3 pick

hell of a haul for the fins

sometimes it really pays to have a bad year every now and then

They can thank Bill O'Brien and the Laremy Tunsil trade for this. I like what the Dolphins are doing though. They'll have something like 6 R1's in 3 years. That's a nice infusion of good cheap talent.

[run pMc]

As the resident homer, I am starting to find this a tad perplexing. Why undervalue a spot so hard, like 4th round is highest we would take an ILB. I can see center because 4tg round centers are usually good. But 4th round ILBs are usually garbage. Rounds 1-3 usually gets the good ones.

Matt Milano's going ok for BUF.
Desmond Bishop had his brief moment in the sun for GB back in the day as a R6 pick.
I'll stet the obvious that you are more likely to find a good ILB (or any other position) if you draft one higher, but I also think you can get lucky and with good coaching at least be average-to-above average.
Barry is supposedly good coaching up LB's, we'll see about that.

For the record, I think they need another ILB. I don't trust Krys Barnes or Kamal Martin to stay healthy for 17+ games, and the depth behind them is unsettling.

I think you get more value drafting other positions in R1 than ILB, unless you know you're absolutely getting a stud like Patrick Willis or Kuechly. Nowadays defenses play sub-package so often you can usually get away with mediocre ILBs.

[Joemailman]

Gute at Minnesota's Pro Day today to see WR Rashod Bateman and CB Benjamin St Juste. St-Juste is a big CB who would likely be a middle round pick. http://https://www.profootballnetwor...ta-cornerback/

[Fritz]

Gute at Minnesota's Pro Day today to see WR Rashod Bateman and CB Benjamin St Juste. St-Juste is a big CB who would likely be a middle round pick. http://https://www.profootballnetwor...ta-cornerback/

Draft him in the fourth, then package him and St. Brown and send them to New Orleans for two guys named Green.

[Jaire]

Gute going to every CB pro day.

[texaspackerbacker]

That's a good sign. Whoever we draft, it almost has to be a Corner - Newsome or Samuel or maybe Farley ideally, maybe Calvin Joseph.

[Fritz]

I think Asante Samuel sounds like he might be Jaire Alexander Part Deux, while Caleb Farley sounds like Kevin King redux.

[Jaire]

Samuel does not have Jaire's speed. He's a second round guy. I really do not want a CB in round one. It's a deep class. I want nothing to do with Fairley and Newsome because of injury.

It's a great draft to move down and stock up in rounds 2 to 4. We have lots of needs and can fill them all if we move down a bit. I'm not enamoured of the top of this class.

[RashanGary]

Samuel does not have Jaire's speed. He's a second round guy. I really do not want a CB in round one. It's a deep class. I want nothing to do with Fairley and Newsome because of injury.

It's a great draft to move down and stock up in rounds 2 to 4. We have lots of needs and can fill them all if we move down a bit. I'm not enamoured of the top of this class.

I agree. Round 2 looks like the place to be. Move back 10 spots and pick up another 3rd. Then move up with those two thirds and end up with 3 2nd round picks.

[RashanGary]

Three second rounders would feel like a haul. You get three very likely starters from one draft, plus a bunch of later round flyers.

[Fritz]

Wouldn't it be cool if that could happen? This is the time of year I fantasize about such things. Then the Packer GM takes a player I've either never heard of or dislike, based upon my detailed research, and I throw a fit.

[texaspackerbacker]

I really think/hope we do not trade down. Quantity we have plenty of across the board. Corner and maybe elsewhere, we could use a quality upgrade.

[RashanGary]

Wouldn't it be cool if that could happen? This is the time of year I fantasize about such things. Then the Packer GM takes a player I've either never heard of or dislike, based upon my detailed research, and I throw a fit.

Well, you have a profile. I, on the other hand, lay out what I expect and then when it goes the opposite, I convince myself of how great the move was and change my profile name to whatever surprise dud we pick with our high picks. Everyone has a niche here. Bretsky is going to hate the pick, that is a near certainty. And joemailman will like it. Everyone has their place.

[Fritz]

Well, you have a profile. I, on the other hand, lay out what I expect and then when it goes the opposite, I convince myself of how great the move was and change my profile name to whatever surprise dud we pick with our high picks. Everyone has a niche here. Bretsky is going to hate the pick, that is a near certainty. And joemailman will like it. Everyone has their place.

Bretsky and I share a history. We both wanted the Packers to draft Odell Thurman. We both admitted it was a good thing they didn't. We both like the idea of two attractive women, well, you know.

I don't know that Joe will automatically like a pick. He's just more open than most of us are to seeing the possibilities.

Me, I admit my ignorance, then get pissed off anyway if the draft doesn't go the way I hope it does. Then I make fun of myself by pretending I'm not like that. It's all kinda fun.

But I do appreciate the Rats who do real research and share their opinions on players. That makes it easier for me to accept whoever it is that does get drafted.

So do you only change your profile name to first-round busts? Would you consider changing your name to Josh Jackson at some point? God I hope you never have to change it to Jordan Love...

[Fritz]

Well, you have a profile. I, on the other hand, lay out what I expect and then when it goes the opposite, I convince myself of how great the move was and change my profile name to whatever surprise dud we pick with our high picks. Everyone has a niche here. Bretsky is going to hate the pick, that is a near certainty. And joemailman will like it. Everyone has their place.

Oops . . . DP.

Funny how that means different things on different websites...