Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[Joemailman]

I have to admit that with both the Rashan Gary and Jordan Love picks I laughed because what the reaction here would be. Very entertaining.

When the Packers draft exactly who I think they should (HHCD, trade up for Jerel Worthy), it doesn't work out too well.

[RashanGary]

I have to admit that with both the Rashan Gary and Jordan Love picks I laughed because what the reaction here would be. Very entertaining.

When the Packers draft exactly who I think they should (HHCD, trade up for Jerel Worthy), it doesn't work out too well.

I hated the Clay pick and ranted about it. Clay ended up a packer HOFer. That's when I stopped taking my opinion so seriously.

[Bretsky]

The Packers most likely will trade up, and with Bateman and the STUD ILB available that we all crave, they will take a OL or CB that was projected be available when we pick anyways. Most likely this will kiss a 4th goodbye to do that. And then they'll fuck up in round 3 again. That is their consistency. Round 3 completely sucks year after year after year. They should just trade it for multiple 5th and 6th rounders and draft multiple OL there and some will stick.

And I still think Odell Smash Mouth Thurman would have been a GREAT Packer if he were a better human being. And also like Fritz, I crave multiple hot women at once )

RASHAN GARY.......I was wrong on that one.....but you should really CHANGE YOUR NAME to JORDAN LOVE ))

[Bretsky]

I hated the Clay pick and ranted about it. Clay ended up a packer HOFer. That's when I stopped taking my opinion so seriously.

You nailed the OL Carpenter dude; that is when I gave you some big kudos.

And as annoying and over the top GB Brandon could be.....dude did know a lot of drift shit and I liked that.

[RashanGary]

You nailed the OL Carpenter dude; that is when I gave you some big kudos.

And as annoying and over the top GB Brandon could be.....dude did know a lot of drift shit and I liked that.

I got lucky there ��

If I watched full games of guys, yeah, I might be able to do a decent job. But it's hard to watch 50 prospects, 2 games each to even have an opinion. I basically go off write ups but that's kind of subjective too. GMs all suck at drafting. Its that hard to do that no one does it at a 50% or better clip.


You watch the badgers and had TJ Watt pegged. That one wasn't luck.

[King Friday]

I really think/hope we do not trade down. Quantity we have plenty of across the board. Corner and maybe elsewhere, we could use a quality upgrade.

Few rookies come in and meaningfully contribute year one. I like having more capable rookies, because it vastly increases the odds that you will have multiple starting caliber players from a draft. Putting all your eggs in one basket for quality is only a good strategy if the basket isn't filled with turds.

[wist43]

I haven't looked at any draft stuff yet, but will start this weekend...

I hold out zero hope that Gute will fill any needs in the draft.... same ole 1265.

No stud at ILB, no help at WR, no help on the DL... first few picks will be developmental guys that they think have high ceilings, but not much use now, etc.

Without looking at any tape, my guess is OT at #29.

[Bretsky]

I haven't looked at any draft stuff yet, but will start this weekend...

I hold out zero hope that Gute will fill any needs in the draft.... same ole 1265.

No stud at ILB, no help at WR, no help on the DL... first few picks will be developmental guys that they think have high ceilings, but not much use now, etc.

Without looking at any tape, my guess is OT at #29.

IF we draft an OT at 29, and maybe get one of the top 5, you have to think he starts from day 1

[Sparkey]

The draft only provides instant help if your a shitty 4 or 5 win team with terrible talent and no depth.

It also helps that if you are the above team your picking top 12. Where the Packers usually pick, it's like starting with a 2nd round pick every year. You rarely find instant starters at the point.

The draft is all about the future. When you draft to fill specific needs you screw your team long term. Teams that don't plan 3-5 years out are always stuck in a perpetual cycle of losing.

[Upnorth]

The draft only provides instant help if your a shitty 4 or 5 win team with terrible talent and no depth.

It also helps that if you are the above team your picking top 12. Where the Packers usually pick, it's like starting with a 2nd round pick every year. You rarely find instant starters at the point.

The draft is all about the future. When you draft to fill specific needs you screw your team long term. Teams that don't plan 3-5 years out are always stuck in a perpetual cycle of losing.

this is 100% true. And as outsiders we don't see the practices and development like the team does so things like 2020 when we collectively lost our minds over no wr. Having one of the greatest passing seasons ever on a run heavy (for 2020) team I think proves wr isn't a true need, and wasn't in 2020.

Using this line of thought wr is a need in 2022 due to free agency so we should draft one or two this year.
If runyon is 85% as good as I think he will be and Jenkins can hold down lt till bakh gets back then ol isn't either.
I think CB is weak due to existing roster and I pray it turns out like wr last year.
Olb with the smiths contacts in 2022 is not do able so need.
Rb and s is not need at all.
Te. Could be our best position group but with injurberger and deguara being huge question marks, Add in lewis age and tonyon being so good how can we afford him in 2022 I think it could be a need in 2022.
I guess in a long term perspective with average player development I see our needs, in oorder, as
Dl wr CB ilb olb ol te from a 2022 perspective.

[Bretsky]

The draft only provides instant help if your a shitty 4 or 5 win team with terrible talent and no depth.

It also helps that if you are the above team your picking top 12. Where the Packers usually pick, it's like starting with a 2nd round pick every year. You rarely find instant starters at the point.

The draft is all about the future. When you draft to fill specific needs you screw your team long term. Teams that don't plan 3-5 years out are always stuck in a perpetual cycle of losing.

Oh I don't know about this

IF we passed on Gooters ManLove there were a ton of players picked after him that would have given us instant help.

I can think of a ton of players picked around 30 (TJ Watt anyone) who kicked ass right away

[Bretsky]

MY SIMULATED MOCK DRAFT (not gonna lie...I think I killed it)

1. Zaven Collins ILB - Tulsa- Brings us what we've been asking for the last 10 years
2. Jackson Carman OT LSU - Beast mode; he's had Trevor's blindside for a while
3. Tommy Togaia- DT- OSU- Young and could develop into a beast after showing ton of improvement in 2020
4. Anthony Schwartz WR-Auburn- Home run hitter and we need more of those
4. Shakir Brown CB Mich ST- Versatile CB who had upside to start outside or play in the slot
5. Dazz Newsome WR NC- Nice slot receiver for years to come
5. Richard Wildgoose CB UW MADTOWN- Don't sleep in the Goose; recently ran a 4.3 at Pro Day and he'd help GB
6. Kylin Hill RB Miss St- There's our RB who can function as a WR; there's are scat
6. Chauncey Golston Edge Iowa- Never ever have enough pass rushers
7. Isaaih Loudermilk--DL-- UW MADTOWN- Value here; he could really help our DL imo

[Bretsky]

GET IT DOWN GUTEBAG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj_vTMW9GKE

[texaspackerbacker]

Good Job with those two late Badger picks (I had no idea Wildgoose was that fast), but I still want a Corner in the first and D Line and ILB as higher priorities than O Line.

[Bretsky]

Good Job with those two late Badger picks (I had no idea Wildgoose was that fast), but I still want a Corner in the first and D Line and ILB as higher priorities than O Line.

Go watch the youtube clip of Zaven Collins I just posted in another thread; dude is all over the place and has more iNT's on that clip than our ILB's over the last 10 years I think.

The goose has a ton of spreed and he's solid IMO.

That Badger DL can't be much worse than the Northwestern yahoo's we keep signing )

I kinda wanted to draft Jack Sanborne as well )))