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  • #16
    Has anything been said that Bakhtiari will be out until mid-season? I tend to doubt it takes that long.

    I like the idea of a D Lineman early, maybe first, but I'm not sure the Iowa guy is the best one. I'm also not sure Snacks won't be back, especially if he does ok this season.

    I've said previously, Corner would be my top choice for the first round, and I don't think "small" is much of a liability when you consider Jaire as prototype small compared to King as prototype "big". There are hardly any lapses in coverage from Jaire and a whole lot from King. Of course, they better do their homework (or get lucky) and get another Jaire, not a Terrell Buckley type small.

    Also, I don't see much in this thread about ILB. In past years, I've been negative on drafting one high, but my mind has been changed on that by what the Niners and a couple of other teams have done against us with good ILBs. Shitcan Kirksey and find somebody good to pair with Barnes.

    Also, again this year, I say we don't need a high pick of a WR. This guy Stevenson may be good, but we've got quality and quantity there enough already.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
      So basically we should draft BPA Which is what I always support anyway...unless BPA is a QB.
      LOL Yeah, I'm in the BPA camp believe it or not. I think you have to consider draft depth and roster too, but BPA is the thing.
      I would be disappointed and stunned if they drafted a QB this year. They have other needs with Boyle and Love as theoretical backups anyway. Gute's job will be making the rest of the team better.

      I'm hearing some say the WR crop is almost as good (or as good) as last years, I'm wondering if they just mean the top-end talent? Not sure about the mid/late round guys.
      Seems like there are some good RB this year too.

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      • #18
        Has anything been said that Bakhtiari will be out until mid-season? I tend to doubt it takes that long.
        I'm just assuming he'll start TC on the PUP since he blew out his ACL in Week 16 and it takes 9-12 months if you're lucky and diligent. Optimistically speaking, that means they bring him back mid season for practice and give him 2-3 weeks to shake off the rust before starting.

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        • #19
          I'm thinking closer to the 9 end of 9-12 for an OT. Speed and cutting ability ain't quite as important as for a WR or RB. He may be less than 100% until mid season or so, but if the guy is nearly as good as so many in here seem to think, 80% of him ought to be plenty good enough.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            Has anything been said that Bakhtiari will be out until mid-season? I tend to doubt it takes that long.

            I like the idea of a D Lineman early, maybe first, but I'm not sure the Iowa guy is the best one. I'm also not sure Snacks won't be back, especially if he does ok this season.

            I've said previously, Corner would be my top choice for the first round, and I don't think "small" is much of a liability when you consider Jaire as prototype small compared to King as prototype "big". There are hardly any lapses in coverage from Jaire and a whole lot from King. Of course, they better do their homework (or get lucky) and get another Jaire, not a Terrell Buckley type small.

            Also, I don't see much in this thread about ILB. In past years, I've been negative on drafting one high, but my mind has been changed on that by what the Niners and a couple of other teams have done against us with good ILBs. Shitcan Kirksey and find somebody good to pair with Barnes.

            Also, again this year, I say we don't need a high pick of a WR. This guy Stevenson may be good, but we've got quality and quantity there enough already.
            In a weaker draft overall for DL the Iowa kid would probably be our only hope where we will be picking. I like him because he has lots of versatility and provides play against both the run game and and as a pass rusher. Many believe he is the heart and soul of that Iowa front seven.

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            • #21
              You can’t just do BPA and draft 10 Corners for example. Especially when your a team on the last year or two competing for a title. You have to finish the puzzle. You also have to factor in Future contracts and who your going to sign and who you aren’t etc.

              Stevenson would bring new blood to a receiver room that has nobody signed past 2021 and is also the exact type of dynamic weapon this offense needs. His versatility could be used in a variety of ways that the Lafluer offense desires. He is a more complete weapon then just a vertical threat. We are going to need to pick up chunk plays for somewhere from losing Jones. Stevenson could be just the ticket in this LaFluer offense while he develops as an all around receiver opposite Adams. We will most likely have to trade up in 2nd to get him which would be well worth it. Kinda like the chiefs did with Mercole Hardman. It’s a slam dunk pick for AR12 and this offense!!
              Last edited by GB-Brandon; 01-14-2021, 07:32 PM.

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              • #22
                Yeah, I hope they draft a WR. Their offense has been very good this year, but every season is different.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                  You can’t just do BPA and draft 10 Corners for example. Especially when your a team on the last year or two competing for a title. You have to finish the puzzle. You also have to factor in Future contracts and who your going to sign and who you aren’t etc.

                  Stevenson would bring new blood to a receiver room that has nobody signed past 2021 and is also the exact type of dynamic weapon this offense needs. His versatility could be used in a variety of ways that the Lafluer offense desires. He is a more complete weapon then just a vertical threat. We are going to need to pick up chunk plays for somewhere from losing Jones. Stevenson could be just the ticket in this LaFluer offense while he develops as an all around receiver opposite Adams. We will most likely have to trade up in 2nd to get him which would be well worth it. Kinda like the chiefs did with Mercole Hardman. It’s a slam dunk pick for AR12 and this offense!!
                  You certainly can go BPA. You never have too much talent anywhere. No such thing. In an era of 3 year contracts you are an injury and a season away from strength becoming weakness and vice versa. There is a not a position on this team that can't use an upgrade. If there is a glaring hole you sign a reliable vet as an insurance against young talent stepping up. That is what they did at WR before he sat out the season. That is what they should do at CB this year if king doesn't re sign.

                  Hell, its exactly what happened at RT this year. You sign a guy who can survive, but deep down you hope a young guy plays better.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    You certainly can go BPA. You never have too much talent anywhere. No such thing. In an era of 3 year contracts you are an injury and a season away from strength becoming weakness and vice versa. There is a not a position on this team that can't use an upgrade. If there is a glaring hole you sign a reliable vet as an insurance against young talent stepping up. That is what they did at WR before he sat out the season. That is what they should do at CB this year if king doesn't re sign.

                    Hell, its exactly what happened at RT this year. You sign a guy who can survive, but deep down you hope a young guy plays better.
                    They haven’t drafted a single receiver in three years man.

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                    • #25
                      Looks like BPA will be WR and OT in early rounds, and we need both.

                      This looks like a deeper draft. In retrospect, last years draft class looks really weak.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                        They haven’t drafted a single receiver in three years man.
                        They are overdue. J'Mon Moore flaming out so badly was a shame.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jaire View Post
                          Looks like BPA will be WR and OT in early rounds, and we need both.

                          This looks like a deeper draft. In retrospect, last years draft class looks really weak.
                          Has someone done a look at which areas are deepest, i.e,. the quality of that depth at different positions? I suppose until the deadline to declare is reached it's hard to say.

                          Agree we need OT and WR talent on offense. I think CB and DL help on D too.

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                          • #28
                            That's what I meant. WR and OT look pretty deep. DL not so much.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jaire View Post
                              That's what I meant. WR and OT look pretty deep. DL not so much.
                              Yeah, those are areas I think they need to build future depth.

                              As for Marquez Stevenson, love his YAC and that he goes 0-60 in a hiccup. Could be a monster out of the slot and on shallow crossers, or as an alternative to MVS on deep routes. Definitely not a natural hands catcher and his route running is very raw but you could replace Ervin or Malik Taylor with him. At 6'0" 190 he's a little small for a Gute WR, and he has a bit of an injury history. Feels like an early Day 3 pick to me, but combine and other events could change that. Looks like he was born to play (and thrive) for KC, or get drafted (and ruined) by CHI.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                                They haven’t drafted a single receiver in three years man.
                                And I would have no problem if the right guy fell to us at 32 and we take one. Or if we take one in the 2nd. But I don't want to take a 2nd round talent in the 1st when a top 15 talent fell to us at 32. I want the best player we can get. If we need a WR sign one of the many who will be FA this season. I have pimped for Cory Davis, but also in the market will be Allen Robinson, Will Fuller, Curtis Samuel, JuJu Smith, Nelson Aguilar, Chris Godwin, and Kenny Golladay. Now there is a nice mix of alphas and #2s. Can you imagine Godwin lining up across from Devante! But even if we land ZERO WR yet again, the guys we got aren't bad because they are lead by Adams which single handedly makes a WR room top half of the league.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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