Official Packers vs. Bucs NFC Title Game Discussion Thread

[smuggler]

Hah, I just noticed Crosby's injury designation -- "J.K. Scott"

[George Cumby]

Arians vs Rodgers.

2009, Arians offensive coordinator with Steelers

Pitt 37-36

2010 super Bowl. Arians O.C. vs Packers

Packers 31-25.

2012 Colts QB coach, Andrew Luck vs Rodgers

Colts 30-27.

2015, Cardinals , HC.Carson Palmer, beat Packers twice. 38-8 regular season. 26-20 playoffs.

And of course 2020. Bucs coach 38-10, with Brady.

You can say the ones where he's just QB coach or OC. Don't really count maybe. But he must have gained some knowledge/advantage from being in those situations and beating Rodgers.

He knows Rodgers very well, it seems.

And for the hell of it, combined scores lol

Points= 194 to 132

Avg= 32. 1/3 to 22

As a head coach, he's beaten Rodgers and his 2 coaches, 3 times

Points 102 to 38

Avg.= 34 to 12.2/3

You fuck-tard, the correct answer is the square root of pi.

Now go blow a goat or something.

[scharpcheddar]

You fuck-tard, the correct answer is the square root of pi.

Now go blow a goat or something.

......blow a goat........

[Zool]

Or something

[Bretsky]

If it was as easy as picking in the top ten every year then teams like Jacksonville would be working on their 5th Super Bowl. The Bucc’s have made a ton of supplemental moves to build their current roster.

Bringing in Tom Brady, Antonio Brown, Gronk, Fournette, JPP, and Suh had nothing to do with drafting in the top 10.

They built up their defense pretty well with those top draft picks.

I"m not going to crown them as anything special til I wait and see if they knock us off

[scharpcheddar]

The October Bucs v Pack is on right now

[Fritz]

We’re gonna lose guys anyways like we are this off-season(mainly Aaron Jones) and probably Linsley and Kevin King. I really don’t see an issue every 4th season having a bit of a “mini-rebuild” if your sprinkling in some “World Championships”. The only way to “Win Championships Every Year” is to be a draft God or to be able to make moves like BB!!

The fact is we haven’t sprinkled in any world championships since 2010 and Rodgers is 37 so you can’t say what we’ve done is any better then what the Saints attempted. In fact we had a leg up because we had AR12 who is better then Drew Bree’s hands down.

We’ll see if we can finish the deal this year with this “Half In” approach.

Packers sign Jason Veldheer. They sign Tramon Williams. All in the last two weeks.

And what's up with "you can't say we've done any better than what the Saints attempted." How many Super Bowl wins do they have in that time frame? How many Super Bowl appearances? How many NFC Championship game appearances? The Packers haven't done better . . . because they have a better QB than New Orleans, so their success doesn't count? What the hell does that even mean? That you discount the Packers' success because the organization procured the services of a really good player? By that logic, we shouldn't "count" the Patriots' success all these years because . . . they had Tom Brady. And taking that a step further, Dan Snyder's idiotic attempts to win now - all his crazy-ass free agent signings - is the same as the Patriots' level of success, because you can't "count" Tom Brady.

That's one effed up world you're living in there.

As for this game, of course no one knows. But I do think the underlying factors mostly favor the Packers - the game at home in the cold, the extra day's rest, the emergence of the offensive line over the course of the season. Hell, even Tampa Bay's special teams seem as bad as Green Bay's.

Really, one crucial aspect is for The Flower to stick with the run. Any time Rodgers thinks a big game is on his shoulders, he seems to not play terribly well. He can come unglued pretty quick, and it's hard to get him back on track. I'd go with a conservative game plan for at least the first quarter. Put it on Aaron Jones's shoulders, plus the other two RB's, and use Rodgers as an adjunct to that. I know Tex won't like that idea, but I do think Rodgers, for all his brilliance, can get rattled in big games in which he thinks he's got to be the be-all.

[texaspackerbacker]

Really, one crucial aspect is for The Flower to stick with the run. Any time Rodgers thinks a big game is on his shoulders, he seems to not play terribly well. He can come unglued pretty quick, and it's hard to get him back on track. I'd go with a conservative game plan for at least the first quarter. Put it on Aaron Jones's shoulders, plus the other two RB's, and use Rodgers as an adjunct to that. I know Tex won't like that idea, but I do think Rodgers, for all his brilliance, can get rattled in big games in which he thinks he's got to be the be-all.

Hell no, it's NOT crucial to stick with the run. Other years, it wasn't even a little bit good idea. This year, our O Line isn't so bad and Aaron Jones is extraordinary, so using the run as a change of pace a bigger percentage of the time ain't a bad idea. But if Aaron Rodgers thinks he is the "be-all", it's because he IS the be-all, and at times he really needs to take it upon himself to win the game. Those times often are dictated by the defense. If they sell out to stop the run, it is foolhardy to stick with the run. We are damn fortunate to have the GOAT to be the be-all. And what if the defense sells out to stop Rodgers and our passing game? Yeah, then we run a little bit more, but even in those situations, Rodgers can and usually does beat the D.

[GB-Brandon]

Packers sign Jason Veldheer. They sign Tramon Williams. All in the last two weeks.

I wouldn’t consider these signings to be worth doing kart-wheels or anything over. Unless injuries hit hard I don’t expect either to even see the field. We might get a motivational speech out of Williams.

[Cheesehead Craig]

If Tramon suits up and actually plays and say, makes a big INT, is he eligible for the Fuckdoggle Award?

[George Cumby]

Agree with Fritz.

Commit to and establish the run, sets up play-action, slows the pass-rush, keep the ball away from the Orangesicles offense.

All this sets 12 up for a big day.

[smuggler]

It was the best of times: https://www.whatifsports.com/nfl/box...u=1&teamfee=-1

It was the worst of times: https://www.whatifsports.com/nfl/box...u=1&teamfee=-1

According to this sim service, the chances of us getting blown out are greater than the chances of us blowing the Bucs out.

[Jaire]

We’re gonna lose guys anyways like we are this off-season(mainly Aaron Jones) and probably Linsley and Kevin King. I really don’t see an issue every 4th season having a bit of a “mini-rebuild” if your sprinkling in some “World Championships”. The only way to “Win Championships Every Year” is to be a draft God or to be able to make moves like BB!!

The fact is we haven’t sprinkled in any world championships since 2010 and Rodgers is 37 so you can’t say what we’ve done is any better then what the Saints attempted. In fact we had a leg up because we had AR12 who is better then Drew Bree’s hands down.

We’ll see if we can finish the deal this year with this “Half In” approach.

Packers should have won in 2014. That was their year. Rodgers just said this week (McAfee show) that it was the best team.

We had horrible injury luck. Don't underesrimate losing Al Harris, Tramon, Collins, Woodson, Shields as well as the injuries to Finley and Jordy from 2009 to 2016. These were devastating.

We should have moved on from TT and MM after 2014. Before that TT was the best in the biz though. We had the best drafts for drafting so late year after year. It's hard to be competitive drafting low and with such key injuries. TT brought in Peppers, Woodson, others. I do prefer Gute's approach to Ted's but he learned from TT and it shows.

The Saints are a bad comparison. 1) They didn't suffer the injuries. 2) They are in cap hell now and worse than GB even going all in. 3) They should have moved on from Brees 2 years ago -- why the Pack was preparing to move from AR (just look at the last years of every great QB except Favre. They all lost it. That is a TT move: better a year early than a year late)

Also compare Rivers. He never even made it to the SB and imo was better than Brees. It's not easy.

This game will be good. TB had an amazing off season. A really great draft. They will be a contender for a while. I'm not sure they are ready to beat GB (and I don't think Brady has enough in the tank. Pettine will bring it. Pretty sure.)

[GB-Brandon]

Packers should have won in 2014. That was their year. Rodgers just said this week (McAfee show) that it was the best team.

We had horrible injury luck. Don't underesrimate losing Al Harris, Tramon, Collins, Woodson, Shields as well as the injuries to Finley and Jordy from 2009 to 2016. These were devastating.

We should have moved on from TT and MM after 2014. Before that TT was the best in the biz though. We had the best drafts for drafting so late year after year. It's hard to be competitive drafting low and with such key injuries. TT brought in Peppers, Woodson, others. I do prefer Gute's approach to Ted's but he learned from TT and it shows.

The Saints are a bad comparison. 1) They didn't suffer the injuries. 2) They are in cap hell now and worse than GB even going all in. 3) They should have moved on from Brees 2 years ago -- why the Pack was preparing to move from AR (just look at the last years of every great QB except Favre. They all lost it. That is a TT move: better a year early than a year late)

Also compare Rivers. He never even made it to the SB and imo was better than Brees. It's not easy.

This game will be good. TB had an amazing off season. A really great draft. They will be a contender for a while. I'm not sure they are ready to beat GB (and I don't think Brady has enough in the tank. Pettine will bring it. Pretty sure.)

Agree with most of this. I “posted” that this is our best chance since 2015. Up until that point I was part of the “In Ted I Trust Camp.” Yes, people were held onto for far too long.

I never brought up the Saints as a comparison(Bobble Did). I simply said neither has won a Super Bowl and we have the better QB although the Saints have been kinda robbed a couple times I will add.

Gute has done some nice things to fortify the current roster but everyone here knows what my issue is. Hopefully we can sneak one in this year and it can FINALLY BE ADDRESSED to finish this thing off and salvage whats left of Rodgers career.

[Upnorth]

Lafleur has proven just how much McCarthy held the pack back.