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  • #61
    Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Or just be bad enough to select in the top 10 for multiple years and you end up with elite talent that way.
    If it was as easy as picking in the top ten every year then teams like Jacksonville would be working on their 5th Super Bowl. The Bucc’s have made a ton of supplemental moves to build their current roster.

    Bringing in Tom Brady, Antonio Brown, Gronk, Fournette, JPP, and Suh had nothing to do with drafting in the top 10.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
      If it was as easy as picking in the top ten every year then teams like Jacksonville would be working on their 5th Super Bowl. The Bucc’s have made a ton of supplemental moves to build their current roster.

      Bringing in Tom Brady, Antonio Brown, Gronk, Fournette, JPP, and Suh had nothing to do with drafting in the top 10.
      The Packers dont need one of those guys except MAYBE Suh.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by scharpcheddar View Post
        Arians vs Rodgers.

        2009, Arians offensive coordinator with Steelers

        Pitt 37-36

        2010 super Bowl. Arians O.C. vs Packers

        Packers 31-25.

        2012 Colts QB coach, Andrew Luck vs Rodgers

        Colts 30-27.

        2015, Cardinals , HC.Carson Palmer, beat Packers twice. 38-8 regular season. 26-20 playoffs.

        And of course 2020. Bucs coach 38-10, with Brady.

        You can say the ones where he's just QB coach or OC. Don't really count maybe. But he must have gained some knowledge/advantage from being in those situations and beating Rodgers.

        He knows Rodgers very well, it seems.

        And for the hell of it, combined scores lol

        Points= 194 to 132

        Avg= 32. 1/3 to 22

        As a head coach, he's beaten Rodgers and his 2 coaches, 3 times

        Points 102 to 38

        Avg.= 34 to 12.2/3
        uh he learned how to beat Capers defense. He's not forming a gameplan to stop AR

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        • #64
          Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
          That’s what happens when you make moves to “Win Now.”
          Thats what the saints have been doing the last 4 years. WIN NOW BABY...oh fuck, we didn't win and now we are in cap hell.

          In the case of TB this is what happens when you suck for years and get some good cheap contracts and then a really good QB and TE fall into your lap.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #65
            Plus all their rookie defensive backs are playing at least decently well and their inside linebacking is outstanding.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              Thats what the saints have been doing the last 4 years. WIN NOW BABY...oh fuck, we didn't win and now we are in cap hell.

              In the case of TB this is what happens when you suck for years and get some good cheap contracts and then a really good QB and TE fall into your lap.
              Great post of reason.

              Nail meets head here as all will be revealed when Saints roster folds like a cheap umbrella with the reduced cap and they suck for the next five years.

              Thank God the Packers organization doesn't listen to the fans at times as we'd suck like the 70's all over. Just need another big name WR to get our offense moving and first in the league this year
              60% of the time it works every time.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
                uh he learned how to beat Capers defense. He's not forming a gameplan to stop AR
                He, as a head coach, is 3-0 vs Rodgers.
                You shouldn't ignore or slight that
                He

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  Thats what the saints have been doing the last 4 years. WIN NOW BABY...oh fuck, we didn't win and now we are in cap hell.

                  In the case of TB this is what happens when you suck for years and get some good cheap contracts and then a really good QB and TE fall into your lap.
                  We’re gonna lose guys anyways like we are this off-season(mainly Aaron Jones) and probably Linsley and Kevin King. I really don’t see an issue every 4th season having a bit of a “mini-rebuild” if your sprinkling in some “World Championships”. The only way to “Win Championships Every Year” is to be a draft God or to be able to make moves like BB!!

                  The fact is we haven’t sprinkled in any world championships since 2010 and Rodgers is 37 so you can’t say what we’ve done is any better then what the Saints attempted. In fact we had a leg up because we had AR12 who is better then Drew Bree’s hands down.

                  We’ll see if we can finish the deal this year with this “Half In” approach.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                    We’re gonna lose guys anyways like we are this off-season(mainly Aaron Jones) and probably Linsley and Kevin King. I really don’t see an issue every 4th season having a bit of a “mini-rebuild” if your sprinkling in some “World Championships”. The only way to “Win Championships Every Year” is to be a draft God or to be able to make moves like BB!!

                    The fact is we haven’t sprinkled in any world championships since 2010 and Rodgers is 37 so you can’t say what we’ve done is any better then what the Saints attempted. In fact we had a leg up because we had AR12 who is better then Drew Bree’s hands down.

                    We’ll see if we can finish the deal this year with this “Half In” approach.

                    Sorry for the back handed compliment but this is one of your few recent posts that comes off as a good post that doesn't suggest your views as facts. Although some posters agree with all in every year, others follow the draft and develop route. GM's (Thompson and Gute) appearing to sit on their hands during FA or taking players for 2-3-4 years down the line is boring but keeps teams competitive. We also don't really know how many moves they tried to make that fell through. Some deals that look great at the time wouldn't have helped and would hurt us moving forward (think Fuller trade this year if we'd given up a 2nd for him, etc.). Conversely there is the Marshawn Lynch deal that we didn't seal where going one round higher likely would have secured him and helped the team immensely so it obviously goes both ways. Again though this is all behind closed doors and we don't know what players were entertained and how close the Packers came to adding them.

                    It would suck just as bad to go all in and come up short like the Saints and then have to gut the team and waste two future years of Rodgers playing career with a really substandard roster. Being competitive every year whether you agree with it not gives you the opportunity to catch lighting in a bottle. So much has to go right (match-ups, injuries, peaking at the right time, etc.) to be the team bringing home the title.

                    Let's hope that in three weeks from this coming Sunday that we're all basking in the glow of another Lombardi trophy.
                    60% of the time it works every time.

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                    • #70


                      Who called this?
                      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                      George Orwell

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                      • #71
                        Excellent news on Tramon Williams being possibly signed. Anything to improve our DB depth behind Alexander and King is good. Doesn't sound like the other recent signing (Jared Veldheer) will be cleared from the COVID list in time for Sunday's game. Then again the OL played exceptional against the Rams and that play will hopefully continue - although adding depth there would be good as well.

                        Any other former Packers lurking around that were we might sign? Seems to be a trend.
                        60% of the time it works every time.

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                        • #72
                          This didn't even happen in the first week I believe



                          That is awesome!
                          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                          George Orwell

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Spaulding View Post
                            Sorry for the back handed compliment but this is one of your few recent posts that comes off as a good post that doesn't suggest your views as facts. Although some posters agree with all in every year, others follow the draft and develop route. GM's (Thompson and Gute) appearing to sit on their hands during FA or taking players for 2-3-4 years down the line is boring but keeps teams competitive. We also don't really know how many moves they tried to make that fell through. Some deals that look great at the time wouldn't have helped and would hurt us moving forward (think Fuller trade this year if we'd given up a 2nd for him, etc.). Conversely there is the Marshawn Lynch deal that we didn't seal where going one round higher likely would have secured him and helped the team immensely so it obviously goes both ways. Again though this is all behind closed doors and we don't know what players were entertained and how close the Packers came to adding them.

                            It would suck just as bad to go all in and come up short like the Saints and then have to gut the team and waste two future years of Rodgers playing career with a really substandard roster. Being competitive every year whether you agree with it not gives you the opportunity to catch lighting in a bottle. So much has to go right (match-ups, injuries, peaking at the right time, etc.) to be the team bringing home the title.

                            Let's hope that in three weeks from this coming Sunday that we're all basking in the glow of another Lombardi trophy.
                            It’s our best shot since 2015(A game I was at) and the Tampa defense isn’t as strong as that Seahawks defense was. Being at Lambeau etc etc and we should at least get to the Super Bowl!!

                            We shall see!!!

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                            • #74
                              Tramon coming back would be such a great story if we do manage to win it all.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                                If it was as easy as picking in the top ten every year then teams like Jacksonville would be working on their 5th Super Bowl. The Bucc’s have made a ton of supplemental moves to build their current roster.

                                Bringing in Tom Brady, Antonio Brown, Gronk, Fournette, JPP, and Suh had nothing to do with drafting in the top 10.
                                I am not saying that that is all that is needed to succeed. Obviously good management and drafting skills are needed. Add in good coaching hires otherwise all the high draft picks in the world won't help. Something Jacksonville absolutely seems to be allergic to. And yes supplementing a draft with free-agent signings is definitely a must. I have not been happy about that with the Packers but, two 13 and 3 seasons in a row seem to say they're doing pretty good.

                                Oh, and what's with all the stuff in quotations? You're starting to look a little bit like woodbuck there. Just don't start using random colors. Or talking about how many crunches you can do.
                                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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