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If Rodgers starts any of that crap they can ship his ass off to the JETS or JAGS. I don't give a rip how good the above players are. It is a TEAM game and when someones britches get too big for the team, you move on.Originally posted by GB-Brandon View PostYou got Tom Brady running to Tampa and basically telling them who to get him and going to a Super Bowl his first year. Russell Wilson getting his OC fired and approving the new OC. Desean Watson calling the shots in Houston!!
You think Rodgers is just gonna play along playing “Small Ball” with Gute in some “JAG-FEST”!!!!! When his career is winding down and urgency is at its highest level. See, the Packers don’t give a fuck about no urgency. They can go draft QB’s to develop for 5 years and punters and whatever. Rodgers does care. He wants a Another RING BAD!!!!!!!!!!
More then Fucken Gute Does!!
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Outside of situations like stafford in Detroit or maybe a great QB stranded on the jets, I agree. Ridiculousness can go too far though where the player has to stand up. Detroit and the Jets don’t even try to win.Originally posted by Sparkey View PostIf Rodgers starts any of that crap they can ship his ass off to the JETS or JAGS. I don't give a rip how good the above players are. It is a TEAM game and when someones britches get too big for the team, you move on.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Rodgers has given every fiber he has to the Packers. The guy has come back from injury early and played hurt etc etc!! He doesn’t owe the Packers Jack. He needs to do what Tom Brady has done and think about himself at this point and maneuver himself into the best position to “WIN NOW” like Brady did. If the Packers want to continue to play “Small Ball” and not bend then there is zero shame in him positioning himself into a better SPOT!! No Packer fan can say he hasn’t given enough to this organization, Fan Base and community!!!
The organization up to this point has failed Rodgers and made other things “MORE IMPORTANT.” The EGG is on the Packers Front Office!
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Expectations right now are that the cap will be around $185M this year.
Cutting Preston Smith, Christian Kirksey, Dean Lowry, and Ricky Wagner would get the Packers to about $193M.
Reading an article on Packers Wire, the Packers could free up money in 2021 with the following deals:
Aaron Rodgers restructure could free up $13-16M.
Davante Adams extension could free up $4-6M.
Converting David Bakhtiari's roster bonus to a signing bonus would free up around $8.5M.
Billy Turner restructure could free up $3M.
Za'Darius Smith restructure could free up $7-12M.
Adrian Amos restructure could free up $3-4M.
Doing those deal would free up $38.5-$49.5M, so they have some flexibility to free up space and resign their own guys or other FAs. With Gute's admission that the Packers are basically in "win now" mode I think they have flexibility to get some things done."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Harvey, I think they will do most of those things but likely keep Preston. While hit or miss this year as a player, I think he plays such an important position that they bring him back. Maybe the same with Ricky Wagner too if they can get him for a little bit cheaper. I suspect they are eyeing up tackles in the draft as well.
I hope they swing for the fences and go for it.
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Andy Herman has some really good info out (tweet linked). We really improved the roster the last couple years, according to His analysis.
Based on this, there is a good chance Preston & Lowry get cut. They will be the toughest replacements in my opinion: edge, DT. Also Wagner goes: his knees are done. I'd love to see two OTs in this deep draft and Linemen are Gute's strength. So many WRs this year too. It just depends HOW many and WHO they like. They are selective about WRs and that's always worked out well. They need Adams' replacement since I doubt he is back in 2022.
Based on what I see as draft depth and strengths, I think we will draft a combo of OT, WR, edge, CB early rounds. We can use them all.
We will likely look for cheap CBs and DL in FA. Those rooms are pretty empty.
Like everyone I would love the rbs back. But, Lindsley, Jamaal, & Jones are easy to replace (and have replacements on the team already, just need another rb or resign Jamaal).
Our only REAL losses are RT (and we are waaaaay behind replacing Bulaga) and Jamaal/Jones.
Finally, I think Kirksey stays one more year. That way they may only have one new cog in that D at right CB. It's still very young and trending up.
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Contrary to what one idiot thinks I am on board with adding a WR, its just that I actually have OTHER things to say as well. I would love to see them do a lot of the above things but maybe EXTEND Adams and sign Cory Davis or Allen Robinson to a 3 year deal. Of utmost importance is signing Lindsey. This OL is really good and the game is still won in the trenches. Its probable that losing Bak cost us the NFCC....well, that and handicapping our OL late by abandoning the run.
Extending adams and signing a 3 year guy to play next to him shores up Rodgers til the end of his career (assuming 3 good years left). Keeping or improving the OL keeps Rodgers and the run game healthy. RBs that can play are a dime a dozen. With Kamara and Murry out my favorite ex packer to bitch about got 100 yards on the ground. James Robinson was an undrafted rookie and was lights out. We can lose Jones, and he was a good packer and good sport. I hope he gets paid.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Yeah, I’m quite certain if the plan is for “Rodgers To Stay” then these moves or a Part Of These Moves will happen. The handwriting is pretty much on the wall. Yes, C. Davis and A. Robinson are the targets. I like Davis better in this offense but wouldn’t complain with Robinson either. As posted if W. Jackson makes it to FA he should be the target at Corner as he would relieve that cornerstone. Either way they need to bring someone of his caliber in.
The WildCard for me is what to do with Linsley. Probably depends how they feel about his back and how much guaranteed $ he will accept.
With these things done the Packers can really get into the draft and fill out the Final Pieces at Slot Receiver, Slot Corner, RB, DL, ILB, OL Depth Etc.
If all these things or similar interchangeable things are done the Packers would be my hands down favorite to win the Super Bowl in 2021 without me having to see what any other team has done!!!
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Thanks for the summary. I’m kind of hoping for a win now at the end of 12s career.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostExpectations right now are that the cap will be around $185M this year.
Cutting Preston Smith, Christian Kirksey, Dean Lowry, and Ricky Wagner would get the Packers to about $193M.
Reading an article on Packers Wire, the Packers could free up money in 2021 with the following deals:
Aaron Rodgers restructure could free up $13-16M.
Davante Adams extension could free up $4-6M.
Converting David Bakhtiari's roster bonus to a signing bonus would free up around $8.5M.
Billy Turner restructure could free up $3M.
Za'Darius Smith restructure could free up $7-12M.
Adrian Amos restructure could free up $3-4M.
Doing those deal would free up $38.5-$49.5M, so they have some flexibility to free up space and resign their own guys or other FAs. With Gute's admission that the Packers are basically in "win now" mode I think they have flexibility to get some things done.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Dallas is set with Cooper and CeeDee Lamb; they are almost wasting Michael Gallop.
I would love to see GB make a move for Michael Gallop or Cory DavisTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Good Post. This is pretty much what I was talking about when I said taking advantage of the cap/stretching out contracts/back loading, etc. It can be done, and we can keep everybody we need to keep. I still hope we don't re-sign Kevin King,Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostExpectations right now are that the cap will be around $185M this year.
Cutting Preston Smith, Christian Kirksey, Dean Lowry, and Ricky Wagner would get the Packers to about $193M.
Reading an article on Packers Wire, the Packers could free up money in 2021 with the following deals:
Aaron Rodgers restructure could free up $13-16M.
Davante Adams extension could free up $4-6M.
Converting David Bakhtiari's roster bonus to a signing bonus would free up around $8.5M.
Billy Turner restructure could free up $3M.
Za'Darius Smith restructure could free up $7-12M.
Adrian Amos restructure could free up $3-4M.
Doing those deal would free up $38.5-$49.5M, so they have some flexibility to free up space and resign their own guys or other FAs. With Gute's admission that the Packers are basically in "win now" mode I think they have flexibility to get some things done.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Step 1 done. Restructure Bakh’s contract cleared $8.3m.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostExpectations right now are that the cap will be around $185M this year.
Cutting Preston Smith, Christian Kirksey, Dean Lowry, and Ricky Wagner would get the Packers to about $193M.
Reading an article on Packers Wire, the Packers could free up money in 2021 with the following deals:
Aaron Rodgers restructure could free up $13-16M.
Davante Adams extension could free up $4-6M.
Converting David Bakhtiari's roster bonus to a signing bonus would free up around $8.5M.
Billy Turner restructure could free up $3M.
Za'Darius Smith restructure could free up $7-12M.
Adrian Amos restructure could free up $3-4M.
Doing those deal would free up $38.5-$49.5M, so they have some flexibility to free up space and resign their own guys or other FAs. With Gute's admission that the Packers are basically in "win now" mode I think they have flexibility to get some things done."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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