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Steps 2 and 3 done. We're now about $6M over what I think a reasonable expectation for the cap is ($185M).Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostExpectations right now are that the cap will be around $185M this year.
Cutting Preston Smith, Christian Kirksey, Dean Lowry, and Ricky Wagner would get the Packers to about $193M.
Reading an article on Packers Wire, the Packers could free up money in 2021 with the following deals:
Aaron Rodgers restructure could free up $13-16M.
Davante Adams extension could free up $4-6M.
Converting David Bakhtiari's roster bonus to a signing bonus would free up around $8.5M.
Billy Turner restructure could free up $3M.
Za'Darius Smith restructure could free up $7-12M.
Adrian Amos restructure could free up $3-4M.
Doing those deal would free up $38.5-$49.5M, so they have some flexibility to free up space and resign their own guys or other FAs. With Gute's admission that the Packers are basically in "win now" mode I think they have flexibility to get some things done."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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And they damn well better be prepared to make that commitment. Specifically, they need to do what's necessary to keep Aaron Rodgers very long term - the rest of his career, which I strongly hope is 5-10 years, assuming it's all with the Packers.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Yeah, they should basically just ask him how long he wants to play and get a deal done that way. It would create MASSIVE CAP RELIEF & end all this DISTRACTION. This is nowhere near like “The Brett Favre Situation.” Rodgers body isn’t breaking down. He has a different play style and skill-set then Brett that will allow him to play longer. He isn’t throwing massive amount of interceptions. If Brady can play at 44 then so can Rodgers. I believe a 5 year timeline would probably be best for all parties and do the trick. They could then trade Jordan Love to Philadelphia or Washington and move forward with really trying to win a Super Bowl as the main goal having everyone on the same page.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostAnd they damn well better be prepared to make that commitment. Specifically, they need to do what's necessary to keep Aaron Rodgers very long term - the rest of his career, which I strongly hope is 5-10 years, assuming it's all with the Packers.
They could still draft a QB here and there in the mid rounds moving forward to try and develop down the road.
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An example of the long term affect of a contract is the Preston Smith contract. It seemed nice at first 6M and 13.5. But now we cut him and we spread out another 8 of dead cap space. You can't just push things into the future unless you don't plan to live in the future some day. It call comes back to bite you.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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It only bites you if you no longer want the player or is time to move on. I’ll take my chances with Rodgers any day over Preston Smith Thank You.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostAn example of the long term affect of a contract is the Preston Smith contract. It seemed nice at first 6M and 13.5. But now we cut him and we spread out another 8 of dead cap space. You can't just push things into the future unless you don't plan to live in the future some day. It call comes back to bite you.
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No need to choose between Rodgers and P. Smith. re-upping Rodgers is absolutely essential. Preston improved but still may not be worth what he is due to be paid. There are 3 choices with him, 2 of them fairly good: 1. do nothing and pay him $13.5 million with a 9.5 million cap hit 2. restructure him for more years, either the same or a little less money, get his cap money reduced by maybe 4-6 million 3. cut him, save on the cap 9.5 minus 4 first half of dead money = 5.5 million. I'd say 1, is not a good choice. 2. and 3. are the fairly good ones, depending on whether his play makes him worth having at all, which I think it still does.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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If I were Preston Smith, I'd be working out furiously and telling my agent to renegotiate the deal so he doesn't get cut.
If I were the Packers, I'd rather do that than sign JJ Watt."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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We have a couple of NFL players as clients. When the player is up for a big contract extension all you hear is the agent thumping his chest. After two years when the player hasn't lived up to the contract and the team says take a $2,000,000 pay cut next year or you are gone, the agent is no where to be found.Originally posted by Fritz View PostIf I were Preston Smith, I'd be working out furiously and telling my agent to renegotiate the deal so he doesn't get cut.
If I were the Packers, I'd rather do that than sign JJ Watt.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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And again sometimes with some players they are busy smoking pot and eating Twinkie’s all offseason. Once again this is on Gute!!Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostWe have a couple of NFL players as clients. When the player is up for a big contract extension all you hear is the agent thumping his chest. After two years when the player hasn't lived up to the contract and the team says take a $2,000,000 pay cut next year or you are gone, the agent is no where to be found.
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Agree.Originally posted by Fritz View PostIf I were Preston Smith, I'd be working out furiously and telling my agent to renegotiate the deal so he doesn't get cut.
If I were the Packers, I'd rather do that than sign JJ Watt.
Watt has had 3 significant injuries in the last 5 seasons and isn't the player he was. He won't come cheap, and if they were to sign him would be overpaying for the production as well as taking on the risk he doesn't make it through the season.
Preston has this good year-bad year yoyo thing going, and if he's motivated (and he should be) would be younger, healthier, and likely to bounce back. I'd offer him a pay cut before cutting him outright.
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Maybe he's busy making spinach-and-cucumber shakes for Smith, and driving him to the gym.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostWe have a couple of NFL players as clients. When the player is up for a big contract extension all you hear is the agent thumping his chest. After two years when the player hasn't lived up to the contract and the team says take a $2,000,000 pay cut next year or you are gone, the agent is no where to be found."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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