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  • Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
    Packers not tendering Boyle. The Love machine will be getting some pt this year.
    So.... 3 victory formation kneel downs for 19 games = -57 yards rushing (we hope)

    0 completions in 0 attempts

    What is his QB rating at the end of the year?

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    • The Packers moves were pretty apparent from the start. They have restructured Preston Smith, Adrian Amos, Devin Funchess, and David Bakhtiari. They have cut Christian Kirksey, Ricky Wagner, and John Lovett. They are $1.5M over the cap. They still have these moves they can make:

      Cut Dean Lowry to save $3.3M.
      Cut Josh Jackson to save $1.3M.
      Restructure Aaron Rodgers to free up $5-16M.
      Extend Davante Adams to free up $4-6M.
      Billy Turner restructure to free up $3M.
      Za'Darius Smith restructure to free up $7-12M.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • Good Move with restructuring P. Smith, but those other things need to get done too - and in the case of Aaron Rodgers at least, it better be the high end number which would mean keeping him longer term. Now keep Aaron Jones.
        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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        • Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
          Packers not tendering Boyle. The Love machine will be getting some pt this year.
          God I hope not.
          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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          • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            TRUTH................DID YOU LIKE THE BACH CONTRACT given the cap going where it is ?

            It seems a rarity that GB borderline overpays for it's own guys. Seems like we did there
            I was almost alone in downplaying the importance of Bakhtiari. I think the way the Packers played and especially the way the offense played while he was out supported that big time.
            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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            • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              TRUTH................DID YOU LIKE THE BACH CONTRACT given the cap going where it is ?

              It seems a rarity that GB borderline overpays for it's own guys. Seems like we did there
              We often overpay for our own guys. At least, Ted Thompson did it all of the time. Franchise LTs are hard to find. I had no problem paying Bakh that kind of money. Great LTs age well. His cap hit is pretty small this year ($10M). We can cut him after two years. That deal gives Green Bay an out after the 2022 season.

              Packers management is damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to a lot of people on this board. We've had some good GMs--Mike Sherman notwithstanding. Yet, you'd think we had Matt Millen. Management has put this team in position multiple times to get to the Super Bowl, but it's not just the likes of Brandon Bostick and Kevin King that have screwed it up. Favre and Rodgers have had bad moments. Julius Peppers told that Packers DB to take a knee. Aaron Jones fumbled at an inopportune time.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                The Packers moves were pretty apparent from the start. They have restructured Preston Smith, Adrian Amos, Devin Funchess, and David Bakhtiari. They have cut Christian Kirksey, Ricky Wagner, and John Lovett. They are $1.5M over the cap. They still have these moves they can make:

                Cut Dean Lowry to save $3.3M.
                Cut Josh Jackson to save $1.3M.
                Restructure Aaron Rodgers to free up $5-16M.
                Extend Davante Adams to free up $4-6M.
                Billy Turner restructure to free up $3M.
                Za'Darius Smith restructure to free up $7-12M.
                Once the WR market is reset with Golladay and Godwin I could see Adams resigned. And Zadarius extended. And maybe even Turner extended if we don’t draft an OT high. I’m curious what 2022 will look like for the cap. We have Tonyan, Lazard and Alexander coming up shortly. I hope the draft is a really good one with several players being rock solid hits at positions of need. And I hope for some really good development from last years first and second year players.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                  We often overpay for our own guys. At least, Ted Thompson did it all of the time. Franchise LTs are hard to find. I had no problem paying Bakh that kind of money. Great LTs age well. His cap hit is pretty small this year ($10M). We can cut him after two years. That deal gives Green Bay an out after the 2022 season.

                  Packers management is damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to a lot of people on this board. We've had some good GMs--Mike Sherman notwithstanding. Yet, you'd think we had Matt Millen. Management has put this team in position multiple times to get to the Super Bowl, but it's not just the likes of Brandon Bostick and Kevin King that have screwed it up. Favre and Rodgers have had bad moments. Julius Peppers told that Packers DB to take a knee. Aaron Jones fumbled at an inopportune time.
                  Well put here.

                  People were whining about the Packers' not offering an extension to Aaron Rodgers's key protector, one of the best left tackles in football. Then the Packers did sign Bakh, and all of a sudden everyone was whining that he was overpaid because he got hurt.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                    The Packers moves were pretty apparent from the start. They have restructured Preston Smith, Adrian Amos, Devin Funchess, and David Bakhtiari. They have cut Christian Kirksey, Ricky Wagner, and John Lovett. They are $1.5M over the cap. They still have these moves they can make:

                    Cut Dean Lowry to save $3.3M.
                    Cut Josh Jackson to save $1.3M.
                    Restructure Aaron Rodgers to free up $5-16M.
                    Extend Davante Adams to free up $4-6M.
                    Billy Turner restructure to free up $3M.
                    Za'Darius Smith restructure to free up $7-12M.
                    Turner was restructured. His $500K roster bonus and an undisclosed amount of his base salary was converted to a signing bonus. There's a good chance we are under the salary cap now.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • They can cut Lowry and Jackson to sign their RFAs and ERFAs. They can clear up space by reworking Rodgers, Adams, and Smith to clear enough space to go after a FA or two they like.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • Every restructure causes future pain. I don't think we need to do much more to have a season that is on par with 2020. 13-3 and nfccg is a great season.
                        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                        George Orwell

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                        • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                          Turner was restructured. His $500K roster bonus and an undisclosed amount of his base salary was converted to a signing bonus. There's a good chance we are under the salary cap now.
                          Spotrac has Packers with 1M in cap space. OTC has Packers 2.3M over the cap, but they have not changed the Billy Turner numbers, so I think Spotrac is right.
                          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                            The Packers moves were pretty apparent from the start. They have restructured Preston Smith, Adrian Amos, Devin Funchess, and David Bakhtiari. They have cut Christian Kirksey, Ricky Wagner, and John Lovett. They are $1.5M over the cap. They still have these moves they can make:

                            Cut Dean Lowry to save $3.3M.
                            Cut Josh Jackson to save $1.3M.
                            Restructure Aaron Rodgers to free up $5-16M.
                            Extend Davante Adams to free up $4-6M.
                            Billy Turner restructure to free up $3M.
                            Za'Darius Smith restructure to free up $7-12M.
                            Good work Harv, you've done the best job I've seen keeping track of our cap situation. I thought we were about even. I really think the team has moved on from Jones and Linsley. We need to do some of these moves to get enough cap room to play in the coming FA pool. There will be some salary bargains in that free agent market starting Thursday. As far as Jackson and Lowry, they have not played up to snuff, but you'd think we have to keep one or more of these home grown guys. Both of them have to crank it up. That motivation might be the thing they need to finally get it going.
                            Last edited by KYPack; 03-13-2021, 02:17 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                              Good work Harv, you've done the best job I've seen keeping track of our cap situation. I thought we were about even. I really think the team has moved on from Jones and Linsley. We need to do some of these moves to get enough cap room to play in the coming FA pool. There will be some salary bargains in that free agent market starting Thursday. As far as Jackson and Lowry, they have not played up to snuff, but you'd think we have to keep one or more of these home grown guys. Both of them have to crank it up. That motivation might be the thing they need to finally get it going.
                              FIFY. I think.
                              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                FIFY. I think.
                                Yer right Joe. Fixed it for myself.
                                The Turner restructuring has already happened.
                                Did you have that in your calculations, Harve?

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