Official fire Maurice Drayton

[George Cumby]

The scouting reports on Rodgers made him sound like the second coming of Randall Cobb.

IIRC, Cobb produced his rookie year.

[Bretsky]

The scouting reports on Rodgers made him sound like the second coming of Randall Cobb.

IIRC, Cobb produced his rookie year.

Ya; they made it sounds like we got lucky a top tier R2 WR fell into our laps in round 3.

[smuggler]

Not every player develops the same and has the same career arc. It's possible he becomes a very good player for us, eventually. And the offense is hard for rookie receivers, moreso now than a decade ago.

[RashanGary]

Not every player develops the same and has the same career arc. It's possible he becomes a very good player for us, eventually. And the offense is hard for rookie receivers, moreso now than a decade ago.

Aaron Rodgers is hard to play with too. He expects all sorts of adjustments. I think the complexity of playing with Rodgers is worse than most players.

[King Friday]

Not every player develops the same and has the same career arc. It's possible he becomes a very good player for us, eventually. And the offense is hard for rookie receivers, moreso now than a decade ago.

Davante Adams certainly was not a stud from day one. Few receivers coming into Green Bay the last few decades as rookies immediately flashed. I agree on the point that it is hard to play with Rodgers as a young player. He is highly demanding and few rookies will ever measure up to his expectations.

[bobblehead]

I wanted Kenny Gainwell who went to philly in the 4th. He has everything Amari has and more. His title is RB, but he runs routes like a WR.

[Fritz]

Not every player develops the same and has the same career arc. It's possible he becomes a very good player for us, eventually. And the offense is hard for rookie receivers, moreso now than a decade ago.

This, and what King Friday posted, is the truth of the matter. Quit being so reasonable. It's a lot easier, and more fun, to bag on the guy.

[smuggler]

Davante Adams certainly was not a stud from day one. Few receivers coming into Green Bay the last few decades as rookies immediately flashed. I agree on the point that it is hard to play with Rodgers as a young player. He is highly demanding and few rookies will ever measure up to his expectations.

Nor was Jordy.

Speaking of Jordy, there is a tight end playing for Georgia named Brock Bowers that reminds me a bit of Nelson.

[bobblehead]

Crosby is incapable of kicking it through end zone if kicking into a wind. Fair catching punts is no guarantee they won't muff it.

Tyler Ervin is available.

I read that article on Ervin. I have defended Gutes quite a bit, but not bring black Tyler is malpractice at this point.

[run pMc]

I think Drayton is done. If the Packers could rank lower than 32 (out of 32 teams) they would...

For KR you need a RB type who can read and follow his blocking. Speed helps there but isn't essential. That's why you would see Jamal Williams doing that, or Kylin Hill this year. Malik Taylor could do it at 6-2 210 but he has some lapses that do not impress.
For PR you need a quick, shifty guy (with reliable hands and judgement) who can make one guy miss and then instantly accelerate North-South. That person is not on the GB roster... well, maybe Jaire but you don't want him doing that.

Amari should not be returning punts. I think his confidence as a PR is shot. He has a chance as a WR still -- I'd give him next year to show improvement and a long look in Year 3 before dumping him unless the team decides the WR room need a full revamp, he does something criminal, or he pulls a Ty Montgomery.

[Joemailman]

One guy who might become available after the season is Joe Judge. Judge may be fired from his job as Giants HC after this year. Before he was the Giants HC, Judge was the Patriots ST coach from 2015-2019.

Giants lose again. Here come da Judge!

[Fritz]

Giants lose again. Here come da Judge!

As sson as the season ends, fire Drayton and immediately look for a proven ST coach. Maybe Judge is that guy. Give him a good contract and get his ass to Green Bay immediately.

The ST's can't go for even one game without fuckups that cost the team points or field position. They just suck.

That will kill this team in a tight playoff game.

[texaspackerbacker]

I tend to agree with that, but I have to ask, what exactly could a "better" special teams coach do that would make a huge difference? This was a tight game, and special teams didn't kill the Packers, just stressed out some of us fans.

[Fritz]

Special teams consistently costs this team, over and over. Kickoffs returned to the forty or fifty yard line. Punt returns that put the opposing team in Packer territory and put extra stress on the defense. Poor decision-making and ball-handling on the Packers' own punt returns that routinely ends up with the Packers starting from inside their own ten yard line, if not the five. I have to think that they lead the league in starting from inside their own ten. And that puts stress on the offense.

I think if the Packers could lure KYPack out of retirement you'd see an immediate improvement in coverage, returns, and even the kicking game.

[bobblehead]

How can this thread not be 200 pages. But then again if there is nothing to discuss and a hive minded opinion I guess it wouldn't be.