Packers Hire New DC Joe Berry

[RashanGary]

At a glance it’s not his fault he took opportunities with trash teams. This should be different

[GB-Brandon]

Kris Richard is a very very intelligent guy!! The Packers really fucked this up!

[GB-Brandon]

At a glance it’s not his fault he took opportunities with trash teams. This should be different

No, No No No. The Washington team was bought and paid for and actually a playoff team that we beat in the wildcard round.

[GB-Brandon]

They had a great offense and their defense was their Achilles heal so he was ran out of town as being the Problem. They couldn’t stand him.

[GB-Brandon]

He is the OPPOSITE of AGGRESSIVE! LOL!!

[Bretsky]

I'm happy Pettine is gone and willing to give this guy a chance because Matt LaFleur knows more than I do

[Upnorth]

I can't believe that looking at his body of work vrs the other teams in the league and this is who we hire. After tomorrow we could look at the 2 remaining teams coaches. Bthis feels like a stupid hire.

However Lafluer looked bad with the Titans.

[th87]

I'm happy Pettine is gone and willing to give this guy a chance because Matt LaFleur knows more than I do

As I get older and encounter more incompetence in high places, I've become a bit more skeptical about the notion that because a person is a professional coach/GM/whatever, they must know what they're doing. This isn't necessarily true of Lafleur, but most coaches got into the game early, had some connections, and when the connection uses his other connections to get a promotion, he brings his friends with. Pretty sure that any above-average intellect who works hard and knows the right people (the hard part) can get pretty far.

Lafleur has demonstrated talent for offense, but didn't recognize that giving up an NFL record to Mostert without adjusting should result in the firing of the responsible party. So I'm not sure if he was smart in hiring someone responsible for the worst defense in the century-long history of the NFL.

[GB-Brandon]

As I get older and encounter more incompetence in high places, I've become a bit more skeptical about the notion that because a person is a professional coach/GM/whatever, they must know what they're doing. This isn't necessarily true of Lafleur, but most coaches got into the game early, had some connections, and when the connection uses his other connections to get a promotion, he brings his friends with. Pretty sure that any above-average intellect who works hard and knows the right people (the hard part) can get pretty far.

Lafleur has demonstrated talent for offense, but didn't recognize that giving up an NFL record to Mostert without adjusting should result in the firing of the responsible party. So I'm not sure if he was smart in hiring someone responsible for the worst defense in the century-long history of the NFL.

This is very true and was a big reason I didn’t want LaFluer to begin with as his “Overall Circle” isn’t all that overly impressive. Not like a Bruce Arians that pulls a Todd Bowles or a Josh McDaniels that could of pulled from several big names by now. You have to look at these head coaches as the “The Total Package” of what your gonna get. I’d prefer LaFleur as more of an OC really.

The farther you go down the rabbit hole the light of all these problems shines bright on Mark Murphy. Has for years now.

[GB-Brandon]

Mike Holmgren blew out over the Packers power Structure because he felt he was being “Held Back.” Guys like Josh McDaniels Have blown out from the interview process because they have been told they have to keep certain coaches. Guys like Bruce Arians have heard so much CRAP about how the Packers front office does things they won’t even consider coaching for the Packers. Jim Leonard wouldn’t even take the Job. Then Talented guys like Kris Richard get passed over for probably the worst candidate in the league!!

How is Mark Murphy still even in that Building?

[George Cumby]

As I get older and encounter more incompetence in high places, I've become a bit more skeptical about the notion that because a person is a professional coach/GM/whatever, they must know what they're doing. This isn't necessarily true of Lafleur, but most coaches got into the game early, had some connections, and when the connection uses his other connections to get a promotion, he brings his friends with. Pretty sure that any above-average intellect who works hard and knows the right people (the hard part) can get pretty far.

Lafleur has demonstrated talent for offense, but didn't recognize that giving up an NFL record to Mostert without adjusting should result in the firing of the responsible party. So I'm not sure if he was smart in hiring someone responsible for the worst defense in the century-long history of the NFL.

The Peter principle is alive and well.

[Sparkey]

Mike Holmgren blew out over the Packers power Structure because he felt he was being “Held Back.” Guys like Josh McDaniels Have blown out from the interview process because they have been told they have to keep certain coaches. Guys like Bruce Arians have heard so much CRAP about how the Packers front office does things they won’t even consider coaching for the Packers. Jim Leonard wouldn’t even take the Job. Then Talented guys like Kris Richard get passed over for probably the worst candidate in the league!!

How is Mark Murphy still even in that Building?

Your such an ass! When Holmgren was coach, Ron Wolf was GM and had total control. Holmgren wanted total control of everything. History has shown that except for rare situations, it is never a good idea for one person to have total control.

You can legitimately debate wether Murphy's setup of the "three silos" is a good idea, but to conflate Holmgrens situation with the current set up is wrong!

Do to just pull shit out of your ass to try to appear smart?

[Sparkey]

Hey GB, spell the guys name properly. It is Barry.

[GB-Brandon]

Your such an ass! When Holmgren was coach, Ron Wolf was GM and had total control. Holmgren wanted total control of everything. History has shown that except for rare situations, it is never a good idea for one person to have total control.

You can legitimately debate wether Murphy's setup of the "three silos" is a good idea, but to conflate Holmgrens situation with the current set up is wrong!

Do to just pull shit out of your ass to try to appear smart?

I am well aware Wolf was the guy but I just added it as it was a huge loss IMO and believe we win another Lombardi if Holmgren stayed. I know lots of people from Seattle and I think we could kept him! That was more toward the entire front office over this whole 30 year run.

Fine. Even if you Minus Holmgren, It’s still a trail of disaster on Murphy alone which is the main point!

[GB-Brandon]

Hey GB, spell the guys name properly. It is Barry.

It won’t let me get in and edit it.