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  • #61
    If you hire Bruce Arians instead of Matt “Dribble Leg” LaFluer you get Todd Bowles as your DC. Can you imagine Todd Bowles with this defense? OMG!! You would see a totally different Brandon!! But guess what? Arians wouldn’t even interview with Green Bay because of guess who? Same old Shit!!

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    • #62
      The Packers as an organization have been a train wreck for decades on defense - with only occassional periods of mediocrity.

      We bought a defense during the Reggie White era, and won a Championship; and we got "fart in the wind lucky" in '11. Other than that, it's been decades of flawed philosophy leading to failure. Year after year.

      They'll never figure it out.

      For the record, I think Pettine was better than not.
      wist

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      • #63
        Originally posted by wist43 View Post
        The Packers as an organization have been a train wreck for decades on defense - with only occassional periods of mediocrity.

        We bought a defense during the Reggie White era, and won a Championship; and we got "fart in the wind lucky" in '11. Other than that, it's been decades of flawed philosophy leading to failure. Year after year.

        They'll never figure it out.

        For the record, I think Pettine was better than not.
        Wist is back. It was a fun year. You should have watched. What flawed philosophy? Must be scheme related--even though plenty of teams have won with a 3-4 (NE, Baltimore, Pittsburgh)--because we've certainly invested heavily in the defense. Most of our draft capital has been invested on that side of the ball. Since Gute took over, most of our big name FAs have been on the side of the ball. So, old wise one, what philosophy has been flawed?
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #64
          Wist never left, and he's as wrong here as he is in that unmentionable area.

          No way in hell the Packers are a poorly run organization - haven't been since at least before the Favre era. That being said, though, they have been skating by on having to GOAT QB as well as the previous GOAT before the current one came along for going on 30 years now. As great as things have been, they obviously could have been better.
          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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          • #65
            Bob Slowik part 2

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            • #66
              Good article over on Acme about Berry.

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              • #67
                A lot of the same people who were whining about Gute not drafting a WR last spring are now complaining about the new DC hire. If this turns out to be a good move, will they finally learn some Socratic humility or at least some patience? Somehow I doubt it. If Green Bay were Tampa Bay, GBB would be bitching about how we lost to all but one of the playoff teams we faced, so our meh 11-5 record was fed by cream puffs and we really weren't a playoff team at all.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                  A lot of the same people who were whining about Gute not drafting a WR last spring are now complaining about the new DC hire. If this turns out to be a good move, will they finally learn some Socratic humility or at least some patience? Somehow I doubt it. If Green Bay were Tampa Bay, GBB would be bitching about how we lost to all but one of the playoff teams we faced, so our meh 11-5 record was fed by cream puffs and we really weren't a playoff team at all.
                  Simply not true and an overreach. Regular Season records didn’t mean as much “This Season” with home field advantage not being as big a deal. The Seahawks lost their first home playoff game since 2004. The bye was the big “Prized Possession.”

                  How could I get upset with team a doing what Tampa did which was basically doing everything they could in their power to build their roster to win a Championship? That would of been like a God Send! Slow down Turbo! We’re not even close to that kind of activity level!!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                    A lot of the same people who were whining about Gute not drafting a WR last spring are now complaining about the new DC hire. If this turns out to be a good move, will they finally learn some Socratic humility or at least some patience? Somehow I doubt it. If Green Bay were Tampa Bay, GBB would be bitching about how we lost to all but one of the playoff teams we faced, so our meh 11-5 record was fed by cream puffs and we really weren't a playoff team at all.
                    Channeling your inner Wist and Brandon (though I respect Wist for actually doing his homework).

                    Good post.

                    I am one of those fans though - this seems like a lousy hire. But really, what do I know? We'll see.

                    I would've liked the fresh young blood - the Rams' guy. I'd like to see some blitzing.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                      The Packers as an organization have been a train wreck for decades on defense - with only occassional periods of mediocrity.

                      We bought a defense during the Reggie White era, and won a Championship; and we got "fart in the wind lucky" in '11. Other than that, it's been decades of flawed philosophy leading to failure. Year after year.

                      They'll never figure it out.

                      For the record, I think Pettine was better than not.
                      No. They will never figure it out. “Too many Chiefs trying to run the Reservation.” I was holding out hope but they just won’t. This most recent hire SCREAMS OUT WHY & I know why now 1000% why many good coaches around the league don’t even want to deal with all the non-sense in Green Bay so they aren’t even a real option. Too much “Red Tape” to push through and Bullshit and bureaucracy to push through to get anything done. Can’t do this and Can’t do That. Can’t have this player or he did that. Can’t have that person on your coaching staff etc etc etc!! It Perils any normal NFL protocol guideline. Your going to basically get this group of players and coaches so deal with it!!!

                      Cause Mark Murphy and Brian Gutekunst who are supposed to be some kind of Fucken Genius’s said so!!! And any complaining WON’T BE TOLERATED!!!

                      So they just blow right out of the interviews or don’t even bother!

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                      • #71
                        They got LaFluer cause nobody else offered LaFluer anything and it was his only opportunity and he was willing to accept “All The Conditions”

                        Same with Barry.

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                        • #72
                          As a Badger fan, I'm happy as hell Leonhard isn't coming. As a Packer fan, this hire in beyond underwhelming. If I'd had known THIS is who MLF would've picked, I'd have never wanted Pettine gone in the first place. God, I hope I'm wrong!
                          Last edited by SudsMcBucky; 02-08-2021, 09:47 AM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                            A lot of the same people who were whining about Gute not drafting a WR last spring are now complaining about the new DC hire. If this turns out to be a good move, will they finally learn some Socratic humility or at least some patience? Somehow I doubt it. If Green Bay were Tampa Bay, GBB would be bitching about how we lost to all but one of the playoff teams we faced, so our meh 11-5 record was fed by cream puffs and we really weren't a playoff team at all.

                            Probably because it’s about as dumb as that was!

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                            • #74
                              The biggest deficiency for the Packers D this season was playing with discipline. I don't know much about this guy, Barry, but he's older and has DC experience - albeit pretty shitty. Maybe he is the guy to keep our outside pass rushers from failing to set the edge on runs, etc. A little bit of attention to detail - which admittedly I have no idea if he is the guy to give that - might help a lot, that and getting a good Corner to replace King and a good sideline to sideline ILB.
                              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                              • #75
                                Nobody could coach the lions and redskins defense to respectability. Relax!
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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