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  • #76
    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    Nobody could coach the lions and redskins defense to respectability. Relax!
    Except Washington was the 4th ranked defense in the league this year!! LOL!!! This place is too funny sometimes!

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    • #77
      Saleh suddenly wasn't so hot with mediocre players in 2020. Specifically the D Linemen. I saw in this thread MLF wasn't so great with TENN but when he gets Prissy Erin as his qb suddenly he's a genius. Personally this hire stinks as devil you know. Bottom line is the powers that be have no idea how to scout D players specifically linemen. That's how last nights game was won. That's how this team has lost in the playoffs multiple times. Scheme doesn't matter as pass rush with four guys to my eyes. Guy has a terrible resume. Should have brought in someone younger with a fire and energy to get this team team to play with intensity and passion to destroy not the milquetoast crap we are subjected too literally for 20 years but for lightning in a bottle XLV.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by ZachMN View Post
        Saleh suddenly wasn't so hot with mediocre players in 2020. Specifically the D Linemen. I saw in this thread MLF wasn't so great with TENN but when he gets Prissy Erin as his qb suddenly he's a genius. Personally this hire stinks as devil you know. Bottom line is the powers that be have no idea how to scout D players specifically linemen. That's how last nights game was won. That's how this team has lost in the playoffs multiple times. Scheme doesn't matter as pass rush with four guys to my eyes. Guy has a terrible resume. Should have brought in someone younger with a fire and energy to get this team team to play with intensity and passion to destroy not the milquetoast crap we are subjected too literally for 20 years but for lightning in a bottle XLV.
        That’s “Problem No. 2”. Which I have thoroughly gone over in the draft thread. It’s like they are scared of players that “Play Violent” or something. Obviously failing to build a dominant front.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by ZachMN View Post
          Saleh suddenly wasn't so hot with mediocre players in 2020. Specifically the D Linemen. I saw in this thread MLF wasn't so great with TENN but when he gets Prissy Erin as his qb suddenly he's a genius. Personally this hire stinks as devil you know. Bottom line is the powers that be have no idea how to scout D players specifically linemen. That's how last nights game was won. That's how this team has lost in the playoffs multiple times. Scheme doesn't matter as pass rush with four guys to my eyes. Guy has a terrible resume. Should have brought in someone younger with a fire and energy to get this team team to play with intensity and passion to destroy not the milquetoast crap we are subjected too literally for 20 years but for lightning in a bottle XLV.
          JPP and Suh were free agents, though. It's true Vita Vea, a top ten pick, is a difference maker.

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          • #80
            https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...potism-problem in

            A good read but not a good read if your a Packers fan.

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            • #81
              It’s the “Exact Tones” of what I’ve been posting and I gotta tell ya if the Gut Punch of the Champ game wasn’t enough then they roll out this hire. They announced it right before Rodgers winning the MVP which completely took all the air out of the balloon of him winning that award for me. It was Classic “1 step forward & 2 step backwards” with the Pettine dismissal and “New Beginning.”

              LaFluer shows Major cracks in his Head Coaching abilities in Champ game and then he jumps off the reservation and does this. They did it textbook too. They interviews 4 black coaches to make it look sooooooo good with ANY ONE OF THEM BEING A BETTER CHOICE!! They probably even knew Leonard wouldn’t take the job and then Phony Bitch Boy Dribble Leg sneaks in his Failure Friend as the DC!!

              Just DiSGUSTING!!! This organization is running out of reasons to back them!!

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              • #82
                Meanwhile The Bears have hired Mike Pettine

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                  Meanwhile The Bears have hired Mike Pettine

                  https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1359627099292782593
                  Nice, don't have to worry about them then.

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                  • #84
                    Article in JS noted Barry was hired because MFL wants to bring in Vic Fangio's defense and Barry is familiar with it; was listening to Wilde and Tauscher. They were chatting on Jimmy Leonard and noted it was a really hard sell to bring get him to come to GB for basically the same ching UW Madison pays him.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                      Article in JS noted Barry was hired because MFL wants to bring in Vic Fangio's defense and Barry is familiar with it; was listening to Wilde and Tauscher. They were chatting on Jimmy Leonard and noted it was a really hard sell to bring get him to come to GB for basically the same ching UW Madison pays him.
                      How are Barry and Fangio related? My understanding is Barry is Tampa 2 mixed with the rams latest upper tier stuff.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #86
                        From what I understand:

                        Brandon Staley was an assistant under Fangio in Chicago and Denver.
                        Staley ran Fangio’s defense as DC for the Rams last year.
                        Barry was his assistant.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #87
                          Barry was also on his way to LAC to coach with Staley when MLF hired him. Not sold on the hire but clearly other coaches think he's competent enough to help run the scheme. Whether he can install and run the whole show on that side of the ball for GB is another question.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                            Barry was also on his way to LAC to coach with Staley when MLF hired him. Not sold on the hire but clearly other coaches think he's competent enough to help run the scheme. Whether he can install and run the whole show on that side of the ball for GB is another question.
                            His own teams didn't think he should've been the DC. Seems like he's a nice guy and knows the right people (Marinelli's son in law, Gruden's friend, Lafleur's friend), but nothing seems that interesting about his vision and work. Just don't understand the logic.

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                            • #89
                              Even ignoring his lackluster past performance, the problem with hiring a guy from the Rams is how much that defense depended on Donald. He was a shell of himself in the divisional game, and Rodgers and Co. were barely slowed by their defense. Even if he teaches the Ram's defense perfectly, it won't mean much unless the front four becomes unstoppable pass rushers.
                              2025 Ratpickers champion.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                                Even ignoring his lackluster past performance, the problem with hiring a guy from the Rams is how much that defense depended on Donald. He was a shell of himself in the divisional game, and Rodgers and Co. were barely slowed by their defense. Even if he teaches the Ram's defense perfectly, it won't mean much unless the front four becomes unstoppable pass rushers.
                                To be fair, he was just LBs coach there and he's had exposure to a lot of different defenses. That's probably the biggest plus for Barry. Hopefully, he's not a "master of none" type.

                                LBs coach under Monte Kiffin in Tampa Bay, coaching the Tampa 2. Kiffin was the mastermind of the Tampa 2.
                                LBs coach under John Pagano in San Diego, coaching the Wade Phillips 3-4. Pagano was an assistant under Wade.
                                LBs coach (and assistant HC) under Brandon Staley with the Rams, coaching Vic Fangio's 3-4. Staley was an assistant under Fangio.

                                So, ideally, I think MLF sees the defense being multiple--similar to Bill Belichick's defenses and Brian Flores' defense in Miami.

                                Who knows how it goes. He's been passed over for DC, but he's also been thought of enough to get a couple of DC gigs (albeit in bad situations).
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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