Packers Hire New DC Joe Berry

[bobblehead]

Everything people are saying about Andy Reid is the reason I predicted the demise of Fat Mike back before he was fat. He married a young hottie, knocked her up and suddenly being coach of the Packers wasn't his top priority. And the thing about being a head coach in the NFL...to be successful, everything else has to come in second.

[Fritz]

To me, I think Andy Reid is about done as an NFL head coach. I don't mean that to say he doesn't have the capacity to coach, but he has to many other things outside football pressing on him. His son killed a kid with a DWI...coming from the Chiefs facility no less. Andy clearly is also having some serious health concerns on his own. He looked like a 90 year old man trying to hobble over to MLF after the game. Bring a head coach takes a lot out of you. I'm not sure Andy has much left to give.

That's what his wife said, too.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Everything people are saying about Andy Reid is the reason I predicted the demise of Fat Mike back before he was fat. He married a young hottie, knocked her up and suddenly being coach of the Packers wasn't his top priority. And the thing about being a head coach in the NFL...to be successful, everything else has to come in second.

If the internet is being truthful and if my math is correct, then McCarthy wedded said “young hottie” when she was 36. Age-wise, in the modern era, 36 is still relatively young. But young hottie? According to Al “4 TDs in a game” Bundy, the prime years of a young hottie are 18-29.

36, especially with offspring, denotes MILF moreso than “young hottie.”

Btw, there’s some rumors floating around saying that McCarthy knocked up said “young hottie” while she was still married to some highly paid bootlicker, err, executive.

[Upnorth]

How many people are willing to eat crow?

I was wrong so far

[bobblehead]

I was fortunate enough to be silent in the early days of this thread, but I'm honest enough to admit I didn't like the hire at the time.

I'm also stupid enough to have unblocked Brandon to see what he was saying at the time.

[Fritz]

Man, this whole thread was basically GB-Brandon ranting, with spittle flying out of his mouth, about how horrible, how rotten, how stupid, this Joe Barry hire was. And how it was getting r-e-a-llll-y hard to root for such a ridiculous organization!

No wonder the dude doesn't post here any more. We are all wrong, a lot, but that guy was as confident as Tex is in his assertions, and even more obnoxious about it. Though Tex is catching up.
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[Joemailman]

I didn't say much at the time either. I think I was at the point that I found Brandon so fucking annoying that I wasn't posting that much.

My recollection is that I wasn't thrilled with or hated with the pick. I did feel that Barry in his first 2 DC positions didn't have much talent, so he shouldn't be judged solely on that.

I was hoping for Ejiro Evero, who was hired by Denver this past offseason as DC.

[run pMc]

Was not thrilled with the hire, not sure eating crow is in order yet.
By DVOA they weren't a great defense by any means, but to the eyes they weren't bad and I think they have potential to get better.
They still had leaky moments vs. the run, and their RZ defense was atrocious to start the year (something like 13 or 16 TD allowed in as many trips by opposing teams).

Compared to Pettine's last year they played better IMO. Berry was able to do more/better with the talent than Pettine, which is not nothing. One area they really improved was tackling - there were a LOT fewer instances of players running up and doing the in-air whiff past the ball carrier.

Maybe Berry just seems good compared to final year Pettine?
Pettine's first year he was pretty good, dropped off from there... maybe we need to see about Berry?

Defense varies more from year to year because it depends on the QBs you're facing, which is often based on schedule and injuries. IMO offense wins consistently, defense pushes you over the top.

[George Cumby]

Just speed scrolled through all seven pages to see how much crow was on my plate.

Much less than I would have anticipated.

As others have said, I'm glad that one chucklefuck doesn't post here anymore. He's the only poster I've ever put on ignore, which is saying something. Half the fucking thread is blocked out.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm only obnoxious when people post like dumbasses. And even then I try to be civil and respectful to all but a few who probably deserve the shit they get.

I don't remember either being strongly for or against Joe Berry. But he apparently did a good job. (edited because I mistakenly thought this was about the new ST coach)

[Sparkey]

I never deadpanned the choice and I don't think I praised it either. Basically "give the guy a chance" because "Detroit" and "Washington" really isn't much of an opportunity. Honestly, He was at Detroit in 2007 and at the beginning of 2008 the Lions guaranteed themselves of a stretch of futility by hiring Matt Millen as GM.

This was the thread the made me block GBB.

[run pMc]

Just speed scrolled through all seven pages to see how much crow was on my plate.

Much less than I would have anticipated.

As others have said, I'm glad that one chucklefuck doesn't post here anymore. He's the only poster I've ever put on ignore, which is saying something. Half the fucking thread is blocked out.

Same on all counts.

GBB said the defense would let them down this past season. Not sure I'd put that SF playoff loss on the defense... they looked pretty good, albeit against a garbage offense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Same on all counts.

GBB said the defense would let them down this past season. Not sure I'd put that SF playoff loss on the defense... they looked pretty good, albeit against a garbage offense.

They gave up 6 points. That's hard to do in the NFL against almost any offense. You can praise him for that game. Statistically, they weren't much better than the previous year. However, they didn't have Big Z and Jaire for most of the year, and it was their first year in the offense. I think we need another DL, some real depth at OLB (which we only had for a few games when Mercilus was healthy), and somebody to play the star role. I'm anxious to look at the S prospects because it seems like there are a few players who could do it (e.g. Daxton Hill and Jalen Pitre).

[HarveyWallbangers]

Brandon was banned? Who did he come back as? I still have him on ignore.

[Joemailman]

They gave up 6 points. That's hard to do in the NFL against almost any offense. You can praise him for that game. Statistically, they weren't much better than the previous year. However, they didn't have Big Z and Jaire for most of the year, and it was their first year in the offense. I think we need another DL, some real depth at OLB (which we only had for a few games when Mercilus was healthy), and somebody to play the star role. I'm anxious to look at the S prospects because it seems like there are a few players who could do it (e.g. Daxton Hill and Jalen Pitre).

Last year Barry talked about the importance of the star position. But they ended up mostly with Chandon Sullivan as in the past. As a 1st year coach, you sometimes have to go with what you inherited. But it's telling they apparently made no effort to keep Sullivan. Looks like it will be a combination at the position of Alexander, Douglas or a safety this year. One more reason Safety may be more of a target position in the draft than people think. Savage also played a lot of star at Maryland.