Official “It should have been us!” Superb Owl game thread

[RashanGary]

Aint it some shit that the NFL spent the whole pregame show talking about diversity only to give the trophy and MVP to the privileged white guy the end?

No shit, eh.

[George Cumby]

Aint it some shit that the NFL spent the whole pregame show talking about diversity only to give the trophy and MVP to the privileged white guy the end?

Fucking A. It shows the system will always win and it's rigged against the Brother.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Should have been us. We had the talent. Kevin King, Bakh's injury, refs, MLF for quitting on the run, missed throws, drops. Mostly blew it ourselves.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/09/6-packers-make-pffs-top-101-players-list-in-2020-including-3-in-top-12/

Pro Football Focus released the site’s top 101 players of the 2020 season on Monday. The Packers had six players featured on the list, including three in the top 12 and all six in the top 50. No other team had any many players in the top 12 or top 50.

Overall, the Packers had PFF’s No. 1 quarterback, No. 1 receiver, No. 1 cornerback, No. 3 offensive tackle, No. 2 safety and No. 1 center during the 2020 season.

6 players in the top 50? An average team would have 1-2 players in the top 50.

[QBME]

Should have been us. We had the talent. Kevin King, Bakh's injury, refs, MLF for quitting on the run, missed throws, drops. Mostly blew it ourselves.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/09/6-packers-make-pffs-top-101-players-list-in-2020-including-3-in-top-12/

6 players in the top 50? An average team would have 1-2 players in the top 50.

On the same page.

[th87]

LOL!!! It’s not stating the Mythology & Hypocrisies of “QANON” though when our offense had “Three” chances to WIN the game Late and go to the Super Bowl late in a game in OUR HOUSE and couldn’t get it done. On a “Macro Level” in a big picture setting over the course of the season playing division opponents and certain teams yes the Packer Receivers Corp was sufficient and that’s not what is being debated or argued. This is what made it frustrating for me all season.

On a “Micro Level” where the “Best are Playing The Best” and individual matchups are magnified times ten there were chinks in the armor and we needed that “Other Guy” to make a Team like Tampa pay for the way they were playing us. That’s all I’m saying. AB > Lazard, St Brown Etc Etc! That’s Fact!! Especially against Press Coverage which is what they were playing.

It’s really no different then someone saying “Well if we had a better Corner Then Kevin King We Would of Won That Game.”

This is spot on. Don't know why people pile on you.

Aggregate stats just aren't that meaningful when we're in a specific situation in which we have to deliver. Could Brown have gotten more open on some of those goal to go situations, especially with Adams getting the attention? Probably.

Over-reliance on aggregate stats are what got the Milwaukee Bucks clapped in the playoffs. Unstoppable in the regular season, but when the adjustments were made, all that went out the window, and they just needed a creator.

[GB-Brandon]

This is spot on. Don't know why people pile on you.

Aggregate stats just aren't that meaningful when we're in a specific situation in which we have to deliver. Could Brown have gotten more open on some of those goal to go situations, especially with Adams getting the attention? Probably.

Over-reliance on aggregate stats are what got the Milwaukee Bucks clapped in the playoffs. Unstoppable in the regular season, but when the adjustments were made, all that went out the window, and they just needed a creator.

So true about the Bucks. At least with the Bucks the front office tries so I kind of give them a pass.

And they “Pile On” because they don’t want to face the facts no matter what. I’ve gotten as close as a normal person/fan can get to this whole thing and this rhetoric that you see on here runs all the way up the Totem Pole. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a group of people so unwilling to change for their own benefit with it being so obvious. We could bring in the top Psychiatrist’s and Counselors in the world and I don’t think it would matter. It’s “Insanity On Steroids”!!!!

I’ve come to the conclusion they won’t change or at least until the “Losing” becomes so painful they can’t take it any longer which could be right around the corner. The problem being at that point is Rodgers will be long gone and things won’t be as easy.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This is spot on. Don't know why people pile on you.

Aggregate stats just aren't that meaningful when we're in a specific situation in which we have to deliver. Could Brown have gotten more open on some of those goal to go situations, especially with Adams getting the attention? Probably.

Over-reliance on aggregate stats are what got the Milwaukee Bucks clapped in the playoffs. Unstoppable in the regular season, but when the adjustments were made, all that went out the window, and they just needed a creator.

We didn't need other guys to win that game though. We had more than enough talent. If our stars would have played better, we win. Adams dropped a TD. Jones had a fumble that was returned inside our 10. Rodgers missed some throws (including a deep throw late to MVS). Unfortunately, Bakh got injured late in the year.

On a macro or micro level, the Packers had more than enough talent to win the Super Bowl. Nothing is given in sports, and they didn't do it. Brady threw 3 interceptions. I guess Tampa Bay could have used other guys, right? If the bounces didn't go their way, maybe they are asking the same questions.

Teams are limited by what they can do. There is a salary cap. Teams that are good get lower draft picks each year. You aren't going to have an All-Pro at every position. You aren't going to have the best players at every position.

Antonio Brown was never going to be a fit in Green Bay. Rob Gronkowski would have never unretired to play in Green Bay. You have to deal in reality.

[GB-Brandon]

We didn't need other guys to win that game though. We had more than enough talent. If our stars would have played better, we win. Adams dropped a TD. Jones had a fumble that was returned inside our 10. Rodgers missed some throws (including a deep throw late to MVS). Unfortunately, Bakh got injured late in the year.

On a macro or micro level, the Packers had more than enough talent to win the Super Bowl. Nothing is given in sports, and they didn't do it. Brady threw 3 interceptions. I guess Tampa Bay could have used other guys, right? If the bounces didn't go their way, maybe they are asking the same questions.

Teams are limited by what they can do. There is a salary cap. Teams that are good get lower draft picks each year. You aren't going to have an All-Pro at every position. You aren't going to have the best players at every position.

Antonio Brown was never going to be a fit in Green Bay. Rob Gronkowski would have never unretired to play in Green Bay. You have to deal in reality.

We are “Dealing In Reality”

Were taking about such things as wasting a 1st and a 4th round pick on a QB and getting NOTHING in that game from an entire draft class but a few carries from a RB! Who says Antonio Brown wouldn’t of been a good fit on a late season run? Just like Andre Rison wasn’t?

Why couldn’t the Packers of made a trade for an Added Piece for Good Measure in sacrifice of a stupid 2nd or 3rd round draft pick at the deadline to help push us over the top? Many Things Could of Been done to Help Us And Improve This Team Within Reality and Quite Frankly Should Of Been Done!!

The fact that Tom Brady threw 3 picks in the second half in OUR HOUSE and we didn’t win just shows us we “Aren’t There.” Get over it Man!!

We were actually getting ready to Get Blown The fuck out again before Rodgers Willed us back into the game to even make it interesting.

[GB-Brandon]

Tampa Bay beat us 38-10 earlier In the season and we had Bakhtiari in that game!!! Getting to the NFC Champ Game and winning the Super Bowl are two very different things!!!

The Packers did next too ZERO since last season to make any progress and here we ARE!!

[Zool]

Don't know why people pile on you.

Really?

[Spaulding]

We are “Dealing In Reality”

Were taking about such things as wasting a 1st and a 4th round pick on a QB and getting NOTHING in that game from an entire draft class but a few carries from a RB! Who says Antonio Brown wouldn’t of been a good fit on a late season run? Just like Andre Rison wasn’t?

Why couldn’t the Packers of made a trade for an Added Piece for Good Measure in sacrifice of a stupid 2nd or 3rd round draft pick at the deadline to help push us over the top? Many Things Could of Been done to Help Us And Improve This Team Within Reality and Quite Frankly Should Of Been Done!!

The fact that Tom Brady threw 3 picks in the second half in OUR HOUSE and we didn’t win just shows us we “Aren’t There.” Get over it Man!!

We were actually getting ready to Get Blown The fuck out again before Rodgers Willed us back into the game to even make it interesting.

You have ZERO idea what goes on behind closed doors of the Packer's front office just like the rest of us. There was quite a bit of smoke that the Packers were interested in Will Fuller which would have been the "missing" piece you so badly claim we needed. However it appears that the Packers simply wouldn't pay the Texan's asking price and I think everybody can safely agree it would have been a terrible trade in hindsight with him getting suspended for the end of the season. Thus we wouldn't have gotten really anything in return before he was an FA for this coming year.

Thompson was known to be interested in several players as well but without knowing what he was offering we really have little idea if he was earnest in getting the trade done or if it was simply fishing and low bids. Quite possibly the latter but again nobody has proof one way or the other.

Going back to Harv's post, some of the FA's you're referencing/clamoring might simply have been considered poor fits, poor character or likely had little interest in playing in the small market/cold that is Green Bay.

For every Tampa Bay that seems to have stuff FA gold this year, there are far more teams like the Saints that overbid/overpay and end up like the rest of the 31 teams not hoisting the trophy.

I think we can all agree that Aaron's window is dwindling and that a key FA signing might put us over the top, however what discussion is being done by Gute/Murphy/etc is all pure conjecture.

And your worshiping of Rodgers is over the top with him "willing the team back into the game" and a slap in the face of Adams, Zadarius, Bak, etc. rest of the players. Last I checked football is the quite possibly the ultimate "team" sport and a QB can't block for themselves nor catch the pass themselves. Heck it's Rodgers supreme hand off that allows Jones to get positive rushing yards.

[GB-Brandon]

You have ZERO idea what goes on behind closed doors of the Packer's front office just like the rest of us. There was quite a bit of smoke that the Packers were interested in Will Fuller which would have been the "missing" piece you so badly claim we needed. However it appears that the Packers simply wouldn't pay the Texan's asking price and I think everybody can safely agree it would have been a terrible trade in hindsight with him getting suspended for the end of the season. Thus we wouldn't have gotten really anything in return before he was an FA for this coming year.

Thompson was known to be interested in several players as well but without knowing what he was offering we really have little idea if he was earnest in getting the trade done or if it was simply fishing and low bids. Quite possibly the latter but again nobody has proof one way or the other.

Going back to Harv's post, some of the FA's you're referencing/clamoring might simply have been considered poor fits, poor character or likely had little interest in playing in the small market/cold that is Green Bay.

For every Tampa Bay that seems to have stuff FA gold this year, there are far more teams like the Saints that overbid/overpay and end up like the rest of the 31 teams not hoisting the trophy.

I think we can all agree that Aaron's window is dwindling and that a key FA signing might put us over the top, however what discussion is being done by Gute/Murphy/etc is all pure conjecture.

And your worshiping of Rodgers is over the top with him "willing the team back into the game" and a slap in the face of Adams, Zadarius, Bak, etc. rest of the players. Last I checked football is the quite possibly the ultimate "team" sport and a QB can't block for themselves nor catch the pass themselves. Heck it's Rodgers supreme hand off that allows Jones to get positive rushing yards.

They offered a 4th for Will Fuller and Houston wanted a 2nd based on where they thought we would be picking. Fuller desperately wanted to come to Green Bay. Nobody knows for sure how it would of played of out for sure or when or at what point he took PED’s. Just like Antonio Brown or drafting players that would of helped us more “This Year.” Well never know for sure. What we do know is Gute/Murphy didn’t do everything they could to push this team over the hump NOW and that’s pretty clear as day. When you add how they went about the draft Picks 1-4 and was a pathetic return “This Year.” You throw in the rest of the “Hand Sitting” and it wasn’t enough.

Kansas City is small market/cold and they have no problem getting free agents. Buffalo too!! Tired of Lame Excuses for a Mediocre Front Office that is Scared!! You can have your opinion and I can have mine.

[GB-Brandon]

And more specifically into the Will Fuller Trade where “IF Trade Terms Were Reached” and if Will Fuller was hopp’d up on PED’s at that time there would of been an extensive physical where a very elaborate drug test would of been done and would of detected PED’s at that time and it would of came back a failed physical and Cancelled Trade so the Packers wouldn’t of gotten all jacked up in that aspect of the trade.

It’s just not as easy to Pawn Off damaged goods as it is used to be in the NFL unless the team is willing to take on the damage knowingly at time of trade. My guess is Will Fuller probably wasn’t doing PED’s at this time and was very very upset as he wanted the Trade to go down and had little to lose the rest of the season playing on a garbage team so took PED’s playing the rest of the way in a contract year.

[RashanGary]

And your worshiping of Rodgers is over the top with him "willing the team back into the game" and a slap in the face of Adams, Zadarius, Bak, etc. rest of the players. Last I checked football is the quite possibly the ultimate "team" sport and a QB can't block for themselves nor catch the pass themselves. Heck it's Rodgers supreme hand off that allows Jones to get positive rushing yards.

This doesn’t include defense and special teams either. His impact there is suspect as well.

[RashanGary]

And more specifically into the Will Fuller Trade where “IF Trade Terms Were Reached” and if Will Fuller was hopp’d up on PED’s at that time there would of been an extensive physical where a very elaborate drug test would of been done and would of detected PED’s at that time and it would of came back a failed physical and Cancelled Trade so the Packers wouldn’t of gotten all jacked up in that aspect of the trade.

It’s just not as easy to Pawn Off damaged goods as it is used to be in the NFL unless the team is willing to take on the damage knowingly at time of trade. My guess is Will Fuller probably wasn’t doing PED’s at this time and was very very upset as he wanted the Trade to go down and had little to lose the rest of the season playing on a garbage team so took PED’s playing the rest of the way in a contract year.

That seems like speculation.