Official “It should have been us!” Superb Owl game thread

[texaspackerbacker]

I think the thread title here is perfect. I haven't felt this way since 2014 - if the Pack had played even a so-so game two weeks ago they'd have been in the Super Bowl, and likely would have beaten KC.

I have to disagree with you here, Mad: I don't think Brady played all that great, either two weeks ago or yesterday. Give him all day to throw, sure, but even then the dude missed several passes and if he sniffed any pressure he was way off. Not GOAT-like to me.

This is because I think the emphasis on championships won in team games is way, way overblown. For those of you old enough, that was the knock on Ernie Banks in Chicago: the Cubbies never won a World Series with him.

He's one guy. What's he supposed to do? Pitch and play catcher, too?

It's a team game. Put Brady on the Lions and no matter how hard he worked or how much he willed the organization, they wouldn't have gone to the Super Bowl this year, period.

I think Stafford gets that same unfair criticism - somehow he was supposed to bitch and moan and insist that the Lions get more talent or something, and because he didn't somehow he's not a really good QB. That's bullshit, to me. IS he supposed to tell the GM who to draft and complain when it's not the guy he wanted?

Winning a championship requires lots and lots of good decisions from lots of people along the way. The QB has more influence then others, but he's not the only factor.

I used to be a Brady hater, but I've changed my mind - for reasons only mentionable in FYI. He still ain't the GOAT, though.

[run pMc]

Tampa was 7-9 last year. I don't claim to be an expert on the Bucs' roster, but Gronk and Brady are the parts I know they added.

Also added Tristan Wirfs, Antonio Brown, Leonard Fournette, Antoine Winfield Jr, Steve McLendon, Joe Haeg, Tyler Johnson. It wasn't just Gronk and Brady, although you could make a pretty solid argument that any team that swaps out Winston for Brady alone would be better.

Tampa won because they didn't make any backbreaking mistakes, Bowles coached smart, and their OL was very good at keeping Brady upright. That will win you a lot of games.
They also benefitted from playing against backup OL. JPP, Suh and Barrett are a handful for starters; once you have backups blocking those guys you've got tough sledding.

[Bossman641]

Brown had 5 catches for 22 yards and a TD and there are people arguing he mightily contributed to the win? Lol.

They won cause their defense dominated and Brady (per usual) got to sit in the pocket without a hint of pressure.

[RashanGary]

Refs and then the buccs front 7 finished it. But refs first.

[GB-Brandon]

Brown had 5 catches for 22 yards and a TD and there are people arguing he mightily contributed to the win? Lol.

They won cause their defense dominated and Brady (per usual) got to sit in the pocket without a hint of pressure.

He broke and beat coverage and ran a beautiful route and “Caught The Ball” on 3rd down on a pivotal TD.

Not everything is a stat! Kind of like St Brown dropping a critical 2pt conversion in a similar big game situation which led to Dribble Leg Kicking the FG later!!

[th87]

Brown had 5 catches for 22 yards and a TD and there are people arguing he mightily contributed to the win? Lol.

They won cause their defense dominated and Brady (per usual) got to sit in the pocket without a hint of pressure.

Still have to account for him, and his route essentially iced the game.

[GB-Brandon]

Antonio Brown was a Giant Success for Tampa Bay! The Packers would of been smart to sign him!

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/antonio-brown/5718

[Bossman641]

Still have to account for him, and his route essentially iced the game.

The game was iced with the Chiefs failing to convert 8 straight third downs from the first quarter to late in the fourth. Everything else is spinning to sell a story.

[GB-Brandon]

The game was iced with the Chiefs failing to convert 8 straight third downs from the first quarter to late in the fourth. Everything else is spinning to sell a story.

I don’t think anybody said “Antonio Brown Won The Super Bowl For Tampa” but his contributions should be noted in this game and all season long as his Advanced Metrics stats point too. For the $ it was a great signing for them.

[th87]

I don’t think anybody said “Antonio Brown Won The Super Bowl For Tampa” but his contributions should be noted in this game and all season long as his Advanced Metrics stats point too. For the $ it was a great signing for them.

And he'd have more of a role here. Possibly a solid 2.

[GB-Brandon]

And he'd have more of a role here. Possibly a solid 2.

I’m not sure it’s even “Possibly” but more Fact. However, we move into speculation if he would of been the guy that makes the difference. The guy has always been able to beat Press Coverage. He had the injury but maybe he doesn’t have the injury playing @ Lambeau against the Rams. I tend to think he would of been the difference and once again another Avenue Gute could of gone to make the improvements needed to the roster. That’s what is so agonizing about this. It wasn’t just the 1st round of the draft. He had FA, the 1st round and “Other Rounds of The Draft”, Supplemental FA Moves and the Trade Dead Line!

Crickets!!

[RashanGary]

Get the refs to call games for the packers like the bucs and we have a few rings more

[Spaulding]

Broken record. WR was likely not the missing factor for the Packers this year. Factual numbers suggest our offense (1st in the league in league in scoring) was perfectly fine with the personnel that were on the field. Our failures were at times stopping the run and breakdowns in coverage. Continuing to harp on the WR need is misguided and an ego stoke to yourself that you HAVE to be right and will always circle back to this to try and convince others of your view point.

Having a view point is good and the purpose of the forum but regurgitating it over and over reeks of QAnon flavoring. State it enough and the hope is that masses will believe it I guess.

[GB-Brandon]

Broken record. WR was likely not the missing factor for the Packers this year. Factual numbers suggest our offense (1st in the league in league in scoring) was perfectly fine with the personnel that were on the field. Our failures were at times stopping the run and breakdowns in coverage. Continuing to harp on the WR need is misguided and an ego stoke to yourself that you HAVE to be right and will always circle back to this to try and convince others of your view point.

Having a view point is good and the purpose of the forum but regurgitating it over and over reeks of QAnon flavoring. State it enough and the hope is that masses will believe I guess.

LOL!!! It’s not stating the Mythology & Hypocrisies of “QANON” though when our offense had “Three” chances to WIN the game Late and go to the Super Bowl late in a game in OUR HOUSE and couldn’t get it done. On a “Macro Level” in a big picture setting over the course of the season playing division opponents and certain teams yes the Packer Receivers Corp was sufficient and that’s not what is being debated or argued. This is what made it frustrating for me all season.

On a “Micro Level” where the “Best are Playing The Best” and individual matchups are magnified times ten there were chinks in the armor and we needed that “Other Guy” to make a Team like Tampa pay for the way they were playing us. That’s all I’m saying. AB > Lazard, St Brown Etc Etc! That’s Fact!! Especially against Press Coverage which is what they were playing.

It’s really no different then someone saying “Well if we had a better Corner Then Kevin King We Would of Won That Game.”

[GB-Brandon]

Get the refs to call games for the packers like the bucs and we have a few rings more

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