Official Fire Chuck Berry Thread

[RashanGary]

It's been one week folks. I think they stunk it up with this hire but why don't we let half a season play out before we start making judgements? Most of the starters are playing their first ball in 6 months in a brand new system.

Agree. And offense too. They learned their lesson on offense too. Run the ball. Let’s see what the future holds. But it looks bad to start.

[Fritz]

It's been one week folks. I think they stunk it up with this hire but why don't we let half a season play out before we start making judgements? Most of the starters are playing their first ball in 6 months in a brand new system.

Can't we panic for at least a few more days?

[Jaire]

Can't we panic for at least a few more days?

Way to early to panic.

I wouldn't fire everyone until at least week three & San Fran.

[RashanGary]

Chuck Berry didn’t put up 3 points in 60 minutes of football. A new defense is at least an excuse. What’s the offenses excuse?

[CaptainKickass]

The Packers were running the Ben Dover defense yesterday.

The Packers implemented and successfully ran the "Run Away Defense" this week. It's a complex scheme where anytime defenders "see the ball" they then have to execute the "Run Away" from it part of the defense.

[red]

in 3 preseason games the defense looked like a complete lost, joke. but there was the excuse that it was the backups playing against starters

then the starters finally took the field and looked just as pathetic as the backups did

. so it might not just be "one game", its 4 games where the defense looked pathetic.

yelling and screaming doesn't make a good coach, and berry has proven that a few different times now

[George Cumby]

Chuck Berry didn’t put up 3 points in 60 minutes of football. A new defense is at least an excuse. What’s the offenses excuse?

No, but his D did give up 38, so what's your point?

[Fritz]

in 3 preseason games the defense looked like a complete lost, joke. but there was the excuse that it was the backups playing against starters

then the starters finally took the field and looked just as pathetic as the backups did

. so it might not just be "one game", its 4 games where the defense looked pathetic.

yelling and screaming doesn't make a good coach, and berry has proven that a few different times now

Okay Red, when quiet Dom Capers was DC, people were screaming for someone different, someone who could light a fire under his players' asses with his own energy.

That was a pretty constant refrain. We all loved the linebackers coach, the former Steeler, because he was so animated.

Now we don't care about that.

Mind you I'm not defending Berry. I was disappointed with that hire. I wanted one of the young up-and-comers, like that Washington assistant.

[ThunderDan]

Okay Red, when quiet Dom Capers was DC, people were screaming for someone different, someone who could light a fire under his players' asses with his own energy.

That was a pretty constant refrain. We all loved the linebackers coach, the former Steeler, because he was so animated.

Now we don't care about that.

Mind you I'm not defending Berry. I was disappointed with that hire. I wanted one of the young up-and-comers, like that Washington assistant.

Fritz-

I think both ways can work, but what I have noticed is you want the up and coming guys. The innovators in the game.

When MM was first coach he had tweaked the West Coast offense into something new. Teams couldn't figure it out. As time went on teams caught up with the scheme and fat Mike never changed. He just said our players need to beat the players lined up across from them. Our O got exceedingly stale.

MLF has brought in the the RPO with multiple plays from the same formation based on reads. Right now that seems to be the dominant O in the NFL. Some Ds are starting to adjust but the DC we hired in Berry was a washout before and I don't have faith that he can figure out what is going on now.

[Jaire]

Thing about Berry is he spent years learning with MLF and that entire group. He's learned with the best -- all successful coaches.

Give him time. That was preseason and again like Amos said, the defense could have used some preseason snaps. Takes longer for defense to put it together esp with a new system.

[Spaulding]

Can we focus on the positives please?

Statistically the Saints were only 50% successful on 3rd down (5 of 10) and only 100% successful on 4th down (2 of 2). Rushing-wise the managed a paltry 4.3 yards a carry and barely owned the time of possession 34:36 to 25:24.

Definitely positives there as the Saints were forced to pass the ball a mere 21 times. And if my math adds up, the Saints only ran 60 offensive plays from scrimmage.

Thus if Berry's defense can figure out a way to force 4-5 turnovers a game and 2-3 of those can be returned to the house, we stand a good chance against sub .500 teams. Then again if we the wet paper bag doesn't have existing holes, I fear we may never get out of this dismal choice of a cheerleader for DC.

[smuggler]

Focusing only on the positives just means focusing on the results of next week's affair with the Leos, hopefully. Nothing much positive to speak of from Week 1.

[Spaulding]

Focusing only on the positives just means focusing on the results of next week's affair with the Leos, hopefully. Nothing much positive to speak of from Week 1.

Fair enough. The true positive is that it's one game and in the past now. Plenty of time to load up the beer fridge and pray for the Packers to show up Monday.

[George Cumby]

Can we focus on the positives please?

Statistically the Saints were only 50% successful on 3rd down (5 of 10) and only 100% successful on 4th down (2 of 2). Rushing-wise the managed a paltry 4.3 yards a carry and barely owned the time of possession 34:36 to 25:24.

Definitely positives there as the Saints were forced to pass the ball a mere 21 times. And if my math adds up, the Saints only ran 60 offensive plays from scrimmage.

Thus if Berry's defense can figure out a way to force 4-5 turnovers a game and 2-3 of those can be returned to the house, we stand a good chance against sub .500 teams. Then again if we the wet paper bag doesn't have existing holes, I fear we may never get out of this dismal choice of a cheerleader for DC.

Hahahahaha.

Well played.

[Sparkey]

If the defense still looks lost after 4 weeks, then we should be concerned

Fact is none of the guys played together and the scheme, no matter what it is, cones down to trusting your keys, trusting your eyes and trusting your teammates. If you hesitate in any of those areas even a 10th of second holes open up.

The one thing that makes the other three less obvious is a great pass rush.