JJ Watt being released

[GB-Brandon]

This whole thing is like a Giant Pimple Coming to a head that all goes through Rodgers for the last time!!

[GB-Brandon]

Go Win a Super Bowl with Rodgers and Bring Watt home and be able to make some other moves as well or go play Fuck Puddy with Jordan Love!!

It’s that simple!!

[Sparkey]

$28M. Preston, Turner, and Kirksey are probably gone which would make them about even. Amos might be a casualty too.

With Bahk out at least the first 8 games, there is no way they can cut Turner. His versatility is too valuable to throw away.

[Zool]

I don’t see them cutting Turner. Maybe you meant Wagner, but there are ways to free up money.

Amos isn’t getting cut, but they can restructure his deal + Big Z + Rodgers.

Yeah I meant Wagner. I do think Amos is at risk if they find someone else they want to sign. He turned it on late in the season, but he's not great in coverage.

[GB-Brandon]

Rodgers wants security and help through his deal ending in 2023 otherwise it’s time to move on NOW!!!

[GB-Brandon]

Yeah I meant Wagner. I do think Amos is at risk if they find someone else they want to sign. He turned it on late in the season, but he's not great in coverage.

Amos is a key piece in this defense and one of the last people the Packers can afford to part ways with!

[GB-Brandon]

Yep. If Rodgers wants to win, and wants high caliber guys like Watt on the team, time to put up or shut up. Restructure and free up cap space for the next 3-4 years by taking LESS money.

You keep saying this but he wants to restructure. It’s on Gute/Murphy/Ball or whoever makes the decisions over at 1265!!

[KYPack]

I think we had this discussion before. It kinda depends what you mean by cooking. If you're talking about breaking the rules, no, you can't. But if you're talking about restructuring, converting money to beat the cap, signing guys with large bonuses spread over the contract and very little the first year, yes, that is very doable.

Restructuring Rodgers, Zadarius, and Bakhtiari alone would put us in good shape. Several others would be possible too. Coughing up a lot of bonus i.e. guaranteed money would get us Aaron Jones and probably Linsley too. Handled right, we probably could get Watt, a really good Corner like Desmond King, Bradley Roby, or maybe Richard Sherman, etc.

Tex, yer dreaming. We've got a ton of manipulations contractually just to stay somewhat even. We are approx 32 million over the cap depending on the number that gets hashed out. Restructuring a few deals is NOT gonna put us in good shape. I know you are a huge Aaron Jones fan. He is gone. Part of your "solution" is to offer him a 108 million dollar package? That ain't even happening. The best that can be hoped for is to sign Linsley, but that too, is probably out of our range.

Get JJ Watt and an established corner to boot?

That's a total fantasy

[RashanGary]

Double

[RashanGary]

To get Watt:

Cut: Wagner, Kirksey, Preston
Let go: Jones, Lindsley, King, everyone else
Restructure: Rodgers, Z, Amos, Turner

Eventually Adams leaves but we have Lazard and Tonyan coming up




It would be a nice one year shot

[RashanGary]

Z Clark Watt Gary

That’s as good of a pass rush 4 as there is in the NFL. Good run stopping too. Might have to go with a 4-2 defense a bunch of the time since those are really 4 pure lineman with no real coverage ability in the bunch.

[RashanGary]

Only downside is Gary would get 10+ sacks with almost constant single blocking and his contract would get unaffordable. Whoever plays corner is going to look good. We could trot out josh Jackson and be fine with this front.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Tex, yer dreaming. We've got a ton of manipulations contractually just to stay somewhat even. We are approx 32 million over the cap depending on the number that gets hashed out. Restructuring a few deals is NOT gonna put us in good shape. I know you are a huge Aaron Jones fan. He is gone. Part of your "solution" is to offer him a 108 million dollar package? That ain't even happening. The best that can be hoped for is to sign Linsley, but that too, is probably out of our range.

Get JJ Watt and an established corner to boot?

That's a total fantasy

Some of this true, but I don't think all of it is. We have some prime contracts to restructure that can put us in good shape to sign a guy or two. Yes, we'd lose secondary pieces, but there could be enough to get a couple of better FAs. We are $27m over the current projections of $185m. Here's what I posted in another thread:

Expectations right now are that the cap will be around $185M this year.

Cutting Preston Smith, Christian Kirksey, Dean Lowry, and Ricky Wagner would get the Packers to about $193M.

Reading an article on Packers Wire, the Packers could free up money in 2021 with the following deals:

Aaron Rodgers restructure could free up $13-16M.
Davante Adams extension could free up $4-6M.
Converting David Bakhtiari's roster bonus to a signing bonus would free up around $8.5M.
Billy Turner restructure could free up $3M.
Za'Darius Smith restructure could free up $7-12M.
Adrian Amos restructure could free up $3-4M.

Doing those deal would free up $38.5-$49.5M, so they have some flexibility to free up space and resign their own guys or other FAs. With Gute's admission that the Packers are basically in "win now" mode I think they have flexibility to get some things done.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Only downside is Gary would get 10+ sacks with almost constant single blocking and his contract would get unaffordable. Whoever plays corner is going to look good. We could trot out josh Jackson and be fine with this front.

Can Josh Jackson cover for 2 seconds? I'm not sure. It's not that easy. Jackson is not good. He'll probably get a look at safety in the last year of his rookie deal--if he isn't cut to free up a little over $1M. Hollman and Ento intrigue more than Jackson.

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, yer dreaming. We've got a ton of manipulations contractually just to stay somewhat even. We are approx 32 million over the cap depending on the number that gets hashed out. Restructuring a few deals is NOT gonna put us in good shape. I know you are a huge Aaron Jones fan. He is gone. Part of your "solution" is to offer him a 108 million dollar package? That ain't even happening. The best that can be hoped for is to sign Linsley, but that too, is probably out of our range.

Get JJ Watt and an established corner to boot?

That's a total fantasy

KYP, did you read the details? Almost certainly the cap is gonna bounce back more than two years worth in '22. The hurdle to clear is getting by '21. As for that $28 or 32 million figure, Merely restructuring Rodgers, Zadarius, and Bakhtiari can accomplish that. Preston, Turner, maybe Amos, etc. can also be restructured, saving even more. There's no reason to think about losing Adams while he is still in his prime. He should be extended sooner rather than later too, undoubtedly helping the cap also. And if they do it right, Rodgers should get about a 8 or 10 year extension, not only saving massive cap money, but keeping him in Green Bay as long as he wants to play. I think he may be basing that on lasting to at least the age Brady plays to, and Brady is 6 years older.

I'm 50/50 on getting Watt. I've read stories about signing either Sherman or Desmond King, and even Patrick Peterson would be a slim possibility. We damn well better retain Aaron Jones and probably Linsley too. We could do any/all of it - if I was GM, we would.