The more I'm seeing some of the contracts teams are still doling out, love the Jones deal. I didn't think the top guys would command these deals THIS year. Time will tell if I was wrong about mid tier guys getting underpaid.
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It was only a 10% cap drop. A 10% savings makes sense. I didn't think your 50% discount concept was gonna pan out. But New England got a lot better. I have them winning the SB at +4000 because I saw this comingOriginally posted by bobblehead View PostThe more I'm seeing some of the contracts teams are still doling out, love the Jones deal. I didn't think the top guys would command these deals THIS year. Time will tell if I was wrong about mid tier guys getting underpaid.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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The deal looks pretty team-friendly.
Next year the Smith Bros. will both be up for another renegotiate or cut. Anyone who thinks the Packers aren't all-in just needs to look at the cap hell Gutey is heading for."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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There has to be another restructure or contract coming up as they are 3 million over the cap and still need money for the draft. I hope Devante gets a new contract as I was really hoping for a WR or CB signing before the draft and to sure up a couple of holes.
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There are discrepancies right now as to whether Packers are over or under the cap. Spotrac has them under.Originally posted by jklowan View PostThere has to be another restructure or contract coming up as they are 3 million over the cap and still need money for the draft. I hope Devante gets a new contract as I was really hoping for a WR or CB signing before the draft and to sure up a couple of holes.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
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They're definitely all-in for 2021. The Smiths and Turner are all in contract years in 2021. And all the wide receivers. Should make for a very motivated team in 2021.Originally posted by Fritz View PostThe deal looks pretty team-friendly.
Next year the Smith Bros. will both be up for another renegotiate or cut. Anyone who thinks the Packers aren't all-in just needs to look at the cap hell Gutey is heading for.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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True. Preston, more than anyone, seems to need that. If we can get Gary, P and Z all playing their best ball, our defense has a shot.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThey're definitely all-in for 2021. The Smiths and Turner are all in contract years in 2021. And all the wide receivers. Should make for a very motivated team in 2021.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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That might be the case if the progression from this year to next was normal, but it's not. The cap should go up next year drastically to make up for this year.Originally posted by Fritz View PostThe deal looks pretty team-friendly.
Next year the Smith Bros. will both be up for another renegotiate or cut. Anyone who thinks the Packers aren't all-in just needs to look at the cap hell Gutey is heading for.
Regarding the Jones contract, if it goes up severely in the fourth year, he's still only 30, so if he's still healthy and effective, restructure and extend him again.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Well, a 10% drop when teams consistently push the ball forward expecting a 10% hike is pretty big. There has been some blood in the water. There will be some deals. We might end up with Kevin King back for $4 million one year deal. I can live with that. There are a LOT of decent players who have been cut or not signed yet. If the pack can add a couple serviceable players at key positions this can still work out the way I foresaw.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostIt was only a 10% cap drop. A 10% savings makes sense. I didn't think your 50% discount concept was gonna pan out. But New England got a lot better. I have them winning the SB at +4000 because I saw this comingThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I bet on it falling a certain way. I made small bets at +3000 to +4000 on the teams with money to spend. New England is the only team that went all in.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostWell, a 10% drop when teams consistently push the ball forward expecting a 10% hike is pretty big. There has been some blood in the water. There will be some deals. We might end up with Kevin King back for $4 million one year deal. I can live with that. There are a LOT of decent players who have been cut or not signed yet. If the pack can add a couple serviceable players at key positions this can still work out the way I foresaw.
If Tua pans out, I like my dolphins bet too. They have a lot of good young players and the money to keep the band together plus add if they feel like it. I don't know if this is the year for the dolphins, but sometime in the next three, they really have a shot with the covid cap and all that extra money.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Yes. For those wondering what going all-in looks like, this is it. They really don't have much else for maneuvers aside from extending Z, Davante, or messing with Rodgers contract. That's basically it, and they've kicked a bunch of cap issues to next year. Russ Ball is probably already looking at how he's gonna clean that mess up. Having a handful of players taking up $100M of your cap is problematic.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThey're definitely all-in for 2021. The Smiths and Turner are all in contract years in 2021. And all the wide receivers. Should make for a very motivated team in 2021.
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This is a very team-friendly deal... basically a 2 year deal that is better than if they slapped the tag on him twice. I didn't think Jones would sign a deal like this, especially if the rumors of what he turned down late in the season are true. If you compare this deal to Cook/Kamara, this is a good deal for GB and assuming they cut his after 2 years he will still have enough tread on the tires to get another deal elsewhere. I am against giving RBs fat 2nd contracts, but considering Jones' cap hit is like $5M this year it's worth it IMO. Considering Jamaal signed with DET for about 2yr/$7.5M that's pretty dang good.
Dillon will eat up Jamaal's snaps and should be an upgrade at RB2. Both backs, especially Dillon, will need to brush up on their pass pro.
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Those 3 restructures, though, may provide upwards of $40 million in cap space, with $5 million for Jones the only part of that used so far. If they are truly serious about maximizing things, we could get a Corner or O Lineman or D Lineman or even maybe all of the above.
Next year's cap will be drastically higher, plus they can kick the can farther down the road if necessary.
For what Detroit is paying Jamal, we could easily have kept him. I suspect, though, he saw the handwriting on the wall about Dillon playing more than him and didn't want to stay.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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The cap will be higher next year, but maybe not as high as you think. They have borrowed against the cap the next 2 years to raise it this year. Otherwise, the cap this year would have been much lower than 182M. League revenues dropped 25% in 2020 but they only dropped the salary cap 10%.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostThose 3 restructures, though, may provide upwards of $40 million in cap space, with $5 million for Jones the only part of that used so far. If they are truly serious about maximizing things, we could get a Corner or O Lineman or D Lineman or even maybe all of the above.
Next year's cap will be drastically higher, plus they can kick the can farther down the road if necessary.
For what Detroit is paying Jamal, we could easily have kept him. I suspect, though, he saw the handwriting on the wall about Dillon playing more than him and didn't want to stay.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
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But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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A 20% increase next year would be about $218 million. That ought to be easily within expectations. I suspect maybe the increased cap hits from these restructures may not be as bad as you think. 3, 4, or 5 year extensions don't hit all at once, and by 3 or 4 or 5 years, the cap should more than accommodate them. And of course, we can always either cut or do another restructure at that time, depending whether they deserve either.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I think a lot of people are forgetting that they did borrow from 2022 and 23 for this year. Add in the new tv money hits 2023 and that makes next year bad for us.those smith contracts could be ugly.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThe cap will be higher next year, but maybe not as high as you think. They have borrowed against the cap the next 2 years to raise it this year. Otherwise, the cap this year would have been much lower than 182M. League revenues dropped 25% in 2020 but they only dropped the salary cap 10%.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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