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I think you have the needs properly identified. Who are the other DL that you like for our defense?"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson -
I'm not real sure what Barry is looking for. Nixon, Milton Williams, Tufele, Tuipulotu.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostComment
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I just read a weird article about Farley - the article claimed he would be the #1 corner in the draft if he hadn't had back surgery. Yet in listing his "cons," they focused on the fact that he apparently has very stiff hips, and that he's grabby. Said he's not a real twitchy guy.Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
That sounds to me like Kevin King, part two. Hurt in college, not a quick-twitch guy. And the guy didn't even play in 2020.
I'd rather have Asante Samuel at 5' 7" with lots of twitch, suddenness, ability to change direction, and good top-end speed.
So, in my expert opinion based upon a single section of one article I read, and having watched zero film, Farley would be a terrible pick."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Excellent indepth analysis Fritz. We have the same understanding of draft candidates.Originally posted by Fritz View PostAll tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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Yes, I always jump on the first thing I read, take it for gospel, and then stop reading anything else about that guy.
Thus my certainty in evaluating these players. And I'm quick too. On the other hand, people like Wist take forever, watching all kinds of film and reading dozens of articles about each player."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Wait, there's more than one article on a player??? Get out. Do the gms know this?Originally posted by Fritz View PostAll tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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Zaven Collins at 260 jumped 35” and ran 4.67 (let’s call it 4.7)
So he’s about the same speed as Krys Barnes and Blake Martinez but 20 pounds heavier. He’s a really high end athlete. And the write up is that he’s really natural in coverage and an overall playmaker on defense.
We could definitely afford to have Zaven Collins mixed into our defense. He would probably move to OLB in some of the sub defense so you could still get away with playing Barnes on every down.
I’m a fan of Zaven Collins. It would require some creativity from the defensive staff to really get him on the field and best utilize the talent on our current team, but having two legit ILBs would make some of our bigger packages much more effective while also improving some of our sub packages.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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On passing downs, could easily go
—-Barnes—Amos—
Zaven—————Preston
——Gary—Clark—Z——
Zaven or Preston could drop into coverage, making the defense unpredictable. Or both could drop and you could blitz one or both ILBs. There are just a lot of options when you have guys who can cover or rush, options to be incredibly unpredictable.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Matt Millen, Bob Quinn, most Cleveland GM's, and Daniel Snyder (who is the defacto GM in Washington) were not aware of that, no.Originally posted by Upnorth View Post"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I wonder if McGinn is doing his draft segment this year? It’s nice to hear all the scouts takes. Even if they’re wrong 70% of the time
The good old unpredictable draft.
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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I saw a mock draft where the Packers top two picks were Corners - Asante Samuel Jr. in the first, and Tyson Campbell in the second. That would be great IMO. Samuel is plug and play right now, and Campbell, they say, is a project, but huge upside.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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I would rather go OT then corner. A lot of really good corners are found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. OTs are usually high picks.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostFormerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Based on depth and strength of the draft, assuming we go best player, my guess would be
OT
ILB
WR
After two years of deep receiver drafts, I could see a WR drift into the 3rd round for us. ILB is solid this year and the second round is the end of the upper tier talent. So ILB second. OT is the toughest to find, so grab one early.
Or, because it’s not a deep corner draft, maybe they grab one of them early and then OT/WR/ILB to take advantage of draft depth.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Gute has been at every top corners pro day. He might be targeting one too. Never know how this shit will shake out. One thing is certain, it’s not going to go the way we want or expect. That much we can count on every year.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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How true that is.
I will say though that I don't think he's attending all the top corners' pro days as a smokescreen. I wonder if he's going to target two or three as a top tier likely available when they pick, and see how it shakes out - do whatever he has to to get one of them. Seems his M.O.
Unless it is a smokescreen, and he was really going to look at some nobody at some other position that he'll draft in the sixth round..."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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