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  • #76
    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
    Packers got that guy in the fourth round a few years ago - Blake Martinez. Why would you waste a first round pick on what sounds like an average player?


    Did you watch this guy play ????????????

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    • #77
      Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
      At his size, that's a really good 40. Even at about 240, you're trying to get guys to run about a 4.65. He did it at twenty pounds heavier. He's a first round athlete. Just gotta have tape to match and he's supposed to.
      Yep, but where this team needs the most help is an awesome pursuit LB. That requires a 4.5 40. But like I continue to say, I'm not obsessed with the 40. 10 yard step and instinct mean 10x more to an ILB. Collins has good to very good instincts. He also has versatility that can disrupt an offense. And as you point out...he has elite size for a guy who can play inside or out. But he can't cover a TE or RB out of the backfield and that is our biggest need. That is why I have come off him as a favorite for this team right now. However, should he be the BPA, grab him and don't even hesitate.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
        These virtual Pro Day times have been too good (I doubt this class is actually the fastest of all-time by far, but that’s what these times are saying), so 4.67 is maybe more like 4.75 and that’s actually a bit concerning. Collins was one of the few guys I watched. He was a hard eval. He mostly played OLB in the game I watched, so it was hard to see if he had sideline to sideline range. I was hoping he’d be a little faster. I’m worried he’s a jack of all trades, master of none.
        Yes, this. He scrapes the line well, but he isn't pure pursuit. He covers ok, but isn't all over quick RBs and he probably runs into trouble if a TE stretches him upfield. I like the talent, but its just now what this team needs right now.
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        • #79
          What I've seen of Collins, he reminds me of Leighton Vander Esch. I was big on Vander Esch, but he's been a disappointment since his rookie year. Not sure that would solve our coverage issues. Maybe somebody like Cox in the 2nd or 3rd round might be better value for what we are looking for. I wouldn't be disappointed with Collins. I watched two games. He had a knack for knocking down passes at the LOS. However, he mostly played outside and the only plays he made were when he was unblocked. However, he looked fluid for a big guy and you can tell his has good instincts.
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          • #80
            Vander Esch looked very promising as a rookie, but has been plagued by injuries the last 2 years. I wouldn't be concerned by that comparison unless you think a guy that tall can't play inside without getting hurt.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
              What I've seen of Collins, he reminds me of Leighton Vander Esch. I was big on Vander Esch, but he's been a disappointment since his rookie year. Not sure that would solve our coverage issues. Maybe somebody like Cox in the 2nd or 3rd round might be better value for what we are looking for. I wouldn't be disappointed with Collins. I watched two games. He had a knack for knocking down passes at the LOS. However, he mostly played outside and the only plays he made were when he was unblocked. However, he looked fluid for a big guy and you can tell his has good instincts.
              That's what I saw too. A really good bet to be a solid long time starter. I didn't see a violent play maker tho. With a first round pick, I want to be excited and I'm not really by Collins.
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              • #82
                I watched zaven collins, jabril Cox and chazz surratt. I like all three in.the second round to be quality long time starters. I do not like Jamin Davis.

                The three are really solid guys who play smart and are just fast enough
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                • #83
                  My guy right now is Jalen mayfield. I watched some Ohio state tape from 2019 and he has that dancing bear kick step like all of our great tackles have. He plays with a good feel, especially for only having 19 or whatever it is college games under his belt. I think he’s a plug and play 10 year guy out there and solidifies Rodgers offensive line for the twilight of his career.
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                  • #84
                    The other thing is, mayfield is a pass pro specialist first and decent in run game. With 12, pass pro always has to be first. I have a feeling he’ll go before us tho
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                      My guy right now is Jalen mayfield. I watched some Ohio state tape from 2019 and he has that dancing bear kick step like all of our great tackles have. He plays with a good feel, especially for only having 19 or whatever it is college games under his belt. I think he’s a plug and play 10 year guy out there and solidifies Rodgers offensive line for the twilight of his career.
                      If this is an accurate statement he would be a no brainer if he falls to us. Even after 12 goes the oline is important.
                      If there is no plug and play tackle in the 1st we should go CB.
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                      • #86
                        Rodgers has never had or needed top quality pass protection. He thrives with his mobility. Besides, there's a rumor LaFleur likes the running game hahahaha.

                        I doubt Mayfield can play Corner - which is what we really need in the first round.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          Vander Esch looked very promising as a rookie, but has been plagued by injuries the last 2 years. I wouldn't be concerned by that comparison unless you think a guy that tall can't play inside without getting hurt.
                          He really didn’t play that well before the injuries, but I think he’ll still be good—just not Urlacher and Kuechly good (which I thought he had a chance to be when he was drafted).
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                            My guy right now is Jalen mayfield. I watched some Ohio state tape from 2019 and he has that dancing bear kick step like all of our great tackles have. He plays with a good feel, especially for only having 19 or whatever it is college games under his belt. I think he’s a plug and play 10 year guy out there and solidifies Rodgers offensive line for the twilight of his career.
                            Didn’t he test poorly? If so, you can probably scratch him from our OT board. The guys at the end of the 1st or early 2nd that I’m looking at are Eichenburg, Jenkins, Radunz, and Cosmi.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                              Didn’t he test poorly? If so, you can probably scratch him from our OT board. The guys at the end of the 1st or early 2nd that I’m looking at are Eichenburg, Jenkins, Radunz, and Cosmi.
                              I've started to notice some guys are late bloomers. Bakhtiari was a small guy his freshman year, but he developed late and kept getting better. Mayfield is like that, 245 his freshman year and developed a little later. Those guys sometimes fill out their athletic profile late. I'm still on mayfield because of the tape and late bloomer upside.
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                              • #90
                                I watched the Notre Dame kid, Liam Eichenberg, Teven Jenkins and Mayfield. I like mayfield most. He hunkers down most naturally in his pass sets. The other two are lungers and lose with that in spurts.
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