Who Should Gutey Draft At #29?

[RashanGary]

I think all three have a chance but Mayfield to me is a really high end OT with his balance and technique and I think he has that “late bloomer” upside where he’ll keep getting better in the NFL for a couple years.


After year's and years of following the draft now, some guys are great that you don't expect (bakhtiari) and other guys flop that you expected to be great. Bakh was tiny entering college. I saw freshman pics and he was like 240 by the looks. Some guys hit their growth spurts sooner and are almost full sized by freshman year. And they max out by junior or senior year. So many variables go in. So damn many. Mayfield gained weight fast in college but I’ll bet it takes some time to really max out his frame.

[Joemailman]

Eichelberg is rated by some as more of a 2nd round pick. A plug and play guy who might have to play RT in the NFL. Might be better than Mayfield on Day 1, but have less upside. I've seen some mock drafts that would have Eichelberg available when the Packers pick in he 2nd round. That would be sweet.

[RashanGary]

Eichelberg is rated by some as more of a 2nd round pick. A plug and play guy who might have to play RT in the NFL. Might be better than Mayfield on Day 1, but have less upside. I've seen some mock drafts that would have Eichelberg available when the Packers pick in he 2nd round. That would be sweet.

Who you like in round 1 so far?

I’m definitely not opposed to a second round tackle. I just think OTs are usually filled with early picks and I want Rodgers upright because he has a full cast of returning chemistry skill players and the offense could be elite again if the OL is solved.

[RashanGary]

One thing the packers have going is some decent stability in the personnel department for the first time in a while. They should have their process down and really be into the details this year. I’m hoping for a home run draft to make 2021 feel optimistic.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Eichelberg is rated by some as more of a 2nd round pick. A plug and play guy who might have to play RT in the NFL. Might be better than Mayfield on Day 1, but have less upside. I've seen some mock drafts that would have Eichelberg available when the Packers pick in he 2nd round. That would be sweet.

The OT rankings are all over the map, but I've read some that are really high on him. I haven't watched much film. I tend to know what the Packers want out of an OT and have ruled some guys out because of it. Mayfield had 5.31 in the 40, 4.91 in the shuttle, and 7.86 in the 3 cone (and this was in a Pro Day environment--which tends to be better than scouting combine numbers). The Packers have not drafted an OT with a 40 above 5.2 in the the years I've been tracking. I started keeping track in 2008 with Breno Giacomini. Only one guy they've drafted (Jamon Meredith) had worse 3 cone and shuttle. He was drafted back in 2009. Since then, the max has been 4.75 in the shuttle (Bryan Bulaga) and 7.71 in the 3 cone (Andrew Darko).

Eichenburg = didn't run the 40, 4.57 in shuttle, 7.53 in 3 cone (26.5" vertical, 105" broad jump)
Radunz = 5.11 in 40, 4.53 in shuttle, 7.27 in 3 cone (33" vertical, 112" broad jump)
Jenkins = 5.01 in 40, 4.66 in shuttle, 7.72 in 3 cone (32.5" vertical, 106" broad jump)
Mayfield = 5.31 in 40, 4.91 in shuttle, 7.86 in 3 cone (28.5" vertical, 96" broad jump)

Eichenberg's arm length is a concern though. Might be RT only because of that. Mayfield's numbers don't match the Packers baseline.

[RashanGary]

I can’t argue with that detail, Harvey.

[RashanGary]

http://www.ravenspr.com/coaches_personnel_bios/MILT_HENDRICKSON.pdf

Milt Hendrickson is Gutes second in command. He was the former Midwest scout for Baltimore and OL specialist. He’s been with the Packers for 2 or three years now and was very likely involved in the Elgton Jenkins selection. The Packers are historically good at drafting OL and have now added another high ranking OL guy to the mix. I’m going to feel good about any OL selection the Packers might make with a higher pick.

[RashanGary]

I also wonder if Hendrickson brought with him some other beneficial scouting processes from one of the best draft and develop departments in the league. Maybe a little blending of philosophies by taking the best of both worlds would be good for Green Bay, which has largely been self evolving with decades of self developed scouts. I just keep hoping for a home run draft, the kind that puts us over the top!

[Joemailman]

Who you like in round 1 so far?

I’m definitely not opposed to a second round tackle. I just think OTs are usually filled with early picks and I want Rodgers upright because he has a full cast of returning chemistry skill players and the offense could be elite again if the OL is solved.

Well, I voted for Teven Jenkins in the poll. Looks like his Pro Day was pretty good.

Highlights of the event included the overall performance of projected first-round draft pick Teven Jenkins, plus standout marks from number of other Cowboys.

A versatile and athletic tackle with outstanding footwork and a nasty streak to him, Jenkins commanded attention in the weight room when he posted 36 reps of 225 pounds in the bench press. That mark would have ranked third among all participants, regardless of position, at the 2020 NFL Combine.

Other impressive numbers from Jenkins Thursday included a 4.96 in the 40-yard dash, a 7.72 in the L-drill, a 4.66 in the 20-yard shuttle and a 32.5 inch vertical leap.

[Joemailman]

My darkhorse is Trevon Moehrig. There was an article on JSO today about Savage maybe being a good fit at the Star position. Something I've been pushing for a while.

[RashanGary]

The ILB I like is Pete Werner from Ohio State. He has explosive pop when he runs into anybody trying to block him. He’s fast. Looks about Eric Kendricks fast to me. He looked OK in coverage. Made a lot of plays behind the line of scrimmage and ran down some impressive angles.

Werner and Collins both looked good. Collins played really patient and smart, but lacked the high impact explosiveness you’d like if you’re taking a guy in the first round. Werner just had more wow to him.


Wist, take a look at Pete Werner, tell me what you think.

[RashanGary]

My darkhorse is Trevon Moehrig. There was an article on JSO today about Savage maybe being a good fit at the Star position. Something I've been pushing for a while.

Amos is also 220lbs. Amos can slide into the nickel backer spot quite a bit. I’m a big believer in safety play in today’s passing NFL. Moehrig is a guy I’d like too because we need a pure free safety and Savage does seem better up around the line of scrimmage more.

[RashanGary]

My guys so far are

Mayfield from Michigan. He put on 80 pounds in three years at Michigan because he came in at 245. Obviously coming in that light, and gaining so fast, he needs a little more time to reach his full athletic profile. His tape was really impressive. Smart, consistent kid.

And

Pete Werner from Ohio State. I like his speed, explosiveness and pop. He can do everything AND make big plays. He didn’t look quite as natural as Collins, but higher ceiling and more of a killer. Maybe Eric Kendricks kind of physical game. Reminded me of a poor mans devin white with speed and a love for smashing into people

[RashanGary]

Joemailman, go watch moering against West Virginia tape on YouTube. It was really bad. He was missing tackles and getting absolutely chewed up in the pass game. It was an “if Kevin king played safety” sort of tape. I can’t be down for that.

[RashanGary]

Guys I like

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Jalen Mayfield
Pete Werner