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We actually have everything the Flower offense needs at the skill positions. I'll say it one more time. Adams, true #1. Lazard, possession guy who can run block. MVS, take the top off and surprisingly good run blocker. Jones, gamebreaker. Dillon, short yardage/all around. 4 functional TEs. Rodgers, the maestro that brings it all together. We can use another T.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostStefon Diggs 5th round
Tyreek Hill 5th round
Keenan Allen 3rd round
Tyler Lockett 3rd round
Robby Anderson undrafted
There are many others but I was just going off of last years receptions leaders list and didn’t want to keep going. But there are many. And many more 2nd rounders than 1st near the top as well. Rounds 2-3 is the money spot for receivers.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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They rarely do as rookies, but Gabriel Davis and Mooney come to mind.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostGame is changing; WR's are becoming move valuable and IMO are getting drafted higher.
I was trying to think of any WR who remotely killed it last year after round 2. I am probably missing somebody. Or year before. Some of those guys have been around a while; if you go back several years you can find gems at every position.
edit: Scottie Miller. He should be etched in your memory.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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When you're right, you're right. 13-3 the past two years, and with a little better D, we'd have gone all the way. Let's get that better D. I like the top five Corners listed here as well as at least two or three not listed. We should be able to get somebody there in the first and maybe even double up on Corner in the second round to do the job nearly as well as Jaire.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostWe actually have everything the Flower offense needs at the skill positions. I'll say it one more time. Adams, true #1. Lazard, possession guy who can run block. MVS, take the top off and surprisingly good run blocker. Jones, gamebreaker. Dillon, short yardage/all around. 4 functional TEs. Rodgers, the maestro that brings it all together. We can use another T.
As four WR, in addition to the top three, St. Brown is a solid fourth, and either Taylor or Funchess is more than adequate to round out the group. I would like to get a kick returner, though.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Bretsky, I think first round receivers tend to play better in year 1, but over the course of a rookie contract or career, the 2nd-5th rounders do quite well. You just go down the list of top performing WR's and most don't come from the first round. I'm a pretty big believer in rounds 2-3 because when I go down the list, that's where the good ones come from, especially 2nd round. I believe in rarely taking a WR in the first round because it's the easiest position to fill later.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I think you try to get a big guy if you can in round 1, skill players in round 2 and interior OL after that. It's just when you look at where the quality players come from, you can get skill guys in rounds 2 and 3 and IOL in 3 and 4 so I just don't like picking WR's early.
Round 1 (in order) QB, LT, DT, EDGE, RT
Round 2 WR, CB, ILB, S, TE
Round 3 and 4 IOL, center, RBFormerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Originally posted by RashanGary View PostBretsky, I think first round receivers tend to play better in year 1, but over the course of a rookie contract or career, the 2nd-5th rounders do quite well. You just go down the list of top performing WR's and most don't come from the first round. I'm a pretty big believer in rounds 2-3 because when I go down the list, that's where the good ones come from, especially 2nd round. I believe in rarely taking a WR in the first round because it's the easiest position to fill later.
I do buy into the round 1 and 2
But I'd take it a step further. Nearly all of the round 2 come before us at the end of the round
I know there are occasional gems in round 3 to 5 but as a percentage my perception is way lowerTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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We are weirdly bad with those third round picks. A lot of teams are hitting receiver and corner gold there and we keep taking duds. It sure is weird that the Packers cant hit a third rounder. You look at a lot of the better players in the league and you see a lot of 3rd rounders.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostI do buy into the round 1 and 2
But I'd take it a step further. Nearly all of the round 2 come before us at the end of the round
I know there are occasional gems in round 3 to 5 but as a percentage my perception is way lower
We crush the 4th round though.
Rounds 1-2 best
Rounds 3-4 solid (packers crush 4s and miss on 3s, lots of good players league wide)
Rounds 5-7 total guessing game, but keke looks alright.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Originally posted by RashanGary View PostI would rather have 3 - 2nd round picks than a 1 2 3
Completely 100 percent agreeTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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2nd round just doesn't give you big guys. That's the only problem. Rashan Gary, most LT's, Kenny Clark, Bulaga, etc.... Those big guys come in the first round. And it's crazy how hard it is to hit on them. I guess if you want stud big guys you need to get first round picks. Its a pick your poison situationOriginally posted by Bretsky View PostCompletely 100 percent agreeFormerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I have only watched a few games but I was so impressed with Justin Fields in the final four game. He was so good. People seem to really like Trey Lance as well.Originally posted by Bretsky View Post1 Trevor Lawrence Clemson
2 Justin Fields- Ohio State
3 Zach Wilson= BYU
4 Trey Lance North Dakota State
5 Mac Jones Alabams
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I watched an Ohio state game (don't watch a ton of college football) and he reminded me of culpepper. I don't know if I love his game, but he looked ok. I don't have an opinion on a lot of the other guys cuz haven't seen whole games. Fields might be a solid QB but I don't think he's special.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI have only watched a few games but I was so impressed with Justin Fields in the final four game. He was so good. People seem to really like Trey Lance as well.
Comparing him to the other guy I've watched full games of, Jordan Love...... It's a tough comp because Love was constantly pressured and harassed, but I thought Love showed a little more with being able to get off good throws off platform and I thought Love was more competitive and gritty.
At the end of the day, the two quarterbacks I've watched full games of the last two years, I think they're about equal. I like fields size and arm. I like loves improvisation, calm under pressure and fire. I think.theyre about equal prospects with Fields safer and Love the upside player.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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This! All we need on offense is an OT. The rest is gravy. OT and defense. Take a WR, but it doesn’t have to be in the first two rounds. OT, CB, DLOriginally posted by bobblehead View PostWe actually have everything the Flower offense needs at the skill positions. I'll say it one more time. Adams, true #1. Lazard, possession guy who can run block. MVS, take the top off and surprisingly good run blocker. Jones, gamebreaker. Dillon, short yardage/all around. 4 functional TEs. Rodgers, the maestro that brings it all together. We can use another T."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Seems like one of those "gadget" guys would be a great addition - someone who really can run the jet sweep and catch passes from the slot.
That, and an offensive tackle who can start from day one, and they've got the offense covered. Oh, and pick up your third running back along the way."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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