AR wants out?!

[texaspackerbacker]

Respect is something that nobody should ever have for any media puke. Virtually anybody can write, as evidenced by this and other forums. Having the supreme gall to boldface lie, conjure up stories, or even putting it in the most positive possible light, collecting rumors and speculation and spewing them as fact, THAT's what it takes to be a God damned "journalist", and if that isn't bad enough, doing those things with an agenda of causing trouble as that piece of shit, Schefter - it is becoming clear - did.

The only people with even a shred of credibility are former players with direct knowledge of a person or situation, and even they need to be taken with a grain of salt.

When I say things seem to be showing signs of shaping up, I base it on the latter - former Packer players coming forward and giving their version of things.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'm sure Adam Schefter gets paid millions of dollars per year for making shit up.

The stark reality is all of this is true.

When I see Aaron's peeps jump to his defense and say this is salvageable, my spidey sense indicates that the Packers have held firm and Rodgers is slowly walking it back and will accept a contract since his threat of retirement didn't get him in Denver or SF on draft day.

[Joemailman]

San Francisco is likely where he wanted to go, but that was never going to happen. Denver though needs a QB and could make the Packers a pretty strong offer.

[RashanGary]

I like getting the Packers story from Packers.com because while Gute sugar coats a little at least it’s from his mouth and you can read between the lines a little.

I like getting Rodgers view from McCaffy because at least it comes from Rodgers mouth. I respect Jones, Kuhn and Hawks views on Rodgers too.


When you take the reliable sourcing (from the team and Rodgers), basically 12 wants a little more security and Gute is trying to iron it out with a contract. It’s a healthy compromise as far as I can see. Shelter blew it up into something it wasn’t. It was never about a guy taking his ball and going home because he refused to compromise. It was just never that. And that’s what shef and company made it seem. And the Packers were never dead set on not hearing Rodgers either. Both Lafleur and Gute said they’re trying to resolve it with contract and communication. There’s nothing to see here other than an MVP asking for a little more security with the team and the team understanding and ironing it out.

[smuggler]

When you take the reliable sourcing (from the team and Rodgers), basically 12 wants a little more security and Gute is trying to iron it out with a contract. It’s a healthy compromise as far as I can see. Shelter blew it up into something it wasn’t. It was never about a guy taking his ball and going home because he refused to compromise. It was just never that. And that’s what shef and company made it seem. And the Packers were never dead set on not hearing Rodgers either. Both Lafleur and Gute said they’re trying to resolve it with contract and communication. There’s nothing to see here other than an MVP asking for a little more security with the team and the team understanding and ironing it out.

Quoted for truth

[Joemailman]

Heard some opinionated stuff lately, but not like this:

https://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...ck-down/578546

An anonymous current Packers player shared his thoughts on the Rodgers situation with Tyler Dunne, a former Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporter who now runs a site called Go Long. According to Dunne, the player does not envision Rodgers returning to Green Bay.



“Aaron is an intelligent, trolling, petty, motherf—er,” Rodgers’ teammate reportedly said. “He’s going to get the last laugh. He’s going to make you look f—ing stupid for disrespecting him.



“As a front office, why haven’t you anticipated this? Why are you getting blindsided? I’m not saying Aaron’s evil but this is like a criminal mastermind plan.”

Rodgers has been angry with the Packers since they traded up in the first round to draft quarterback Jordan Love last year. What bothered him more is that they made the move without informing him ahead of time. Rodgers was also bothered by at least one other Roster move Green Bay made in the past year.



Dunne also spoke with a former Packers executive who said he is certain Rodgers will either be traded or retire.

“Put it this way: they’d have to fire everybody,” the former executive said. “He is dug in. They’d have to make him the freakin’ owner of the team. The sense I get is the dude just wants control.”

[Joemailman]

Mile Holmgren has chimed in:

https://clutchpoints.com/packers-new...odgers-fiasco/

The 72-year-old -- who coached the Pack from 1992-1998 -- broke it all down on the "Carmen and Jurko" show on ESPN Chicago ... saying straight-up the Packers blew their marriage with the QB.

"I can't imagine a relationship between the coach, or management, or whoever is making the decisions and a star quarterback like that getting to this point," Holmgren says.

"I just can't imagine it. I wouldn't allow it. It wouldn't happen."

Holmgren says the team should have looped in Rodgers before it drafted Jordan Love in 2020 ... adding Green Bay should've done everything in its power to keep the future Hall of Famer happy.

"With a franchise quarterback and a guy as good as Aaron -- you don't treat all the players the same," Holmgren said. "You have a line that no one crosses, but I would call him in and say, 'Look, we're going to do this. This is how it's going to affect you.'"

"'We've got to get ready for when you retire. We've got to kind of think of the franchise. But, nothing's going to happen now. You're the man. You're the guy.'"

Holmgren says he believes that would have resolved issues ... and even if it didn't, he says he would've found other ways to fix it.

Of course, Mike acknowledges back in his day he never really had to have conversations like these -- saying when he was with San Francisco, they never told Joe Montana about bringing in Steve Young.

Holmgren, though, explained, "It's a different world now. It's a different world."

For their part, the Packers say they're confident the issues with Rodgers will be fixed in time for the 2021 season ... with GM Brian Gutekunst saying just days ago, "I do think he'll play for us again."

[Joemailman]

I like getting the Packers story from Packers.com because while Gute sugar coats a little at least it’s from his mouth and you can read between the lines a little.

I like getting Rodgers view from McCaffy because at least it comes from Rodgers mouth. I respect Jones, Kuhn and Hawks views on Rodgers too.


When you take the reliable sourcing (from the team and Rodgers), basically 12 wants a little more security and Gute is trying to iron it out with a contract. It’s a healthy compromise as far as I can see. Shelter blew it up into something it wasn’t. It was never about a guy taking his ball and going home because he refused to compromise. It was just never that. And that’s what shef and company made it seem. And the Packers were never dead set on not hearing Rodgers either. Both Lafleur and Gute said they’re trying to resolve it with contract and communication. There’s nothing to see here other than an MVP asking for a little more security with the team and the team understanding and ironing it out.

Placing any bets?

[Bretsky]

Why would you defend this piece of crap? You are factually wrong. Nothing Murphy said confirmed the shit he conjured up.

Little by little, it seems like things are beginning to shape up in this whole disgusting mess. I think it will get resolved and we'll have Rodgers for at least 3 years, hopefully 4, 5, or more - no thanks to any of the God damned media shitheads.

I too hope it's shaped up

But the mess is real. The Media didn't make anything up IMO. They just brought it out on a national level. Who knows....maybe that pressures both sides to get the solution faster.

[Bretsky]

Mile Holmgren has chimed in:

https://clutchpoints.com/packers-new...odgers-fiasco/

Thanks for posting Joe; outside of GB this reflect how much feel.

[Packers4Glory]

Mile Holmgren has chimed in:

https://clutchpoints.com/packers-new...odgers-fiasco/

Common sense. When the bears can do it with a guy they’ve called qb1 for 4 weeks that says all you need to. Either they’re inept leaders or they didn’t give a shit & planned on next year anyway.

I just don’t see how anyone can read it any other way

[Bossman641]

Knowing what we know about Rodgers, do you really think telling him you're drafting Love would make a difference? There's an alternate universe where they inform Rodgers, he asks them not to do it and they do anyways, and he complains the personnel department doesn't listen to him. This belief that he'd be fine with the Love pick if they had just told him about it makes no sense.

[call_me_ishmael]

This passage is accurate and never got the love it deserves.

Rodgers was 36 at the time. I disagree and so does precedent. Did the Broncos take a QB in the first when they had Manning? Did the Buccanears with Brady? Did the Saints with Brees? Did the Steelers with Roethlisberger? Did the Cardinals with whats-his-name? Did the Chargers with Phillip Rivers? Did the Giants take a QB to sit on the bench behind Manning for a few years?

In the case of most of the above, they were playing at a much lower level than what Rodgers was. Arguably Rodgers was more injury prone, I will entertain that. And I'm not Rodgers fan, he has his own host of problems.

The stark reality is I cannot find a single situation analogous to Rodgers/Love in recent history with a top tier QB. I guess the two that come to mind are Montana -> Steve Young, and Favre -> Rodgers. One could maybe make the case of Manning -> Luck but that is a wildly different situation (Manning coming off potential career ending surgery, 1-15 record IIRC correctly, one-in-a-decade prospect in Andy Luck)

[th87]

Knowing what we know about Rodgers, do you really think telling him you're drafting Love would make a difference? There's an alternate universe where they inform Rodgers, he asks them not to do it and they do anyways, and he complains the personnel department doesn't listen to him. This belief that he'd be fine with the Love pick if they had just told him about it makes no sense.

This is where people skills come in handy. Rodgers seems logical - if the team laid out the logic in doing this, he couldn't be upset about it.

Not that I think this was the reason anyway. I think it's an accumulation of not being kept in the loop and not being shown that his future mattered.

[sharpe1027]

This is where people skills come in handy. Rodgers seems logical - if the team laid out the logic in doing this, he couldn't be upset about it.

Not that I think this was the reason anyway. I think it's an accumulation of not being kept in the loop and not being shown that his future mattered.

When it comes to feeling disrespected, I'm not sure he acts all that logical. Rodgers could have shut this whole thing down in five minutes, but he let it go on and fester. If it's true part of this is over Jake "can't get separation from a LBer" Kumerow, how logical is he on this subject?