AR wants out?!

[bobblehead]

I expect a large jump this year. While he was handcuffed last offseason he now has a full season in the system. I expect it will show quickly if he is worth this stress or if we need a different hope.
If he had to step in right now he is in a top system, top 3 ol, top 3 rb room, top 10 pass catchers(at least) plus a great set of blocking wr and te.
If he doesn't succeed he sucks.

This is largely true. Not sure our OL are top 3 right now, but top 10 still and might be better. But yea, this offense is pretty well built, and even with 1 lost offseason, he had a season in the building. He has the things around him to succeed. They should have a pretty good idea in this preseason.

[Zool]

I want it clear that we have Rodgers for 2021 and 2022. Then trade for a bunch of some other teams future.

This is probably exactly what Rodgers is trying to avoid.

[Joemailman]

This is largely true. Not sure our OL are top 3 right now, but top 10 still and might be better. But yea, this offense is pretty well built, and even with 1 lost offseason, he had a season in the building. He has the things around him to succeed. They should have a pretty good idea in this preseason.

They will start the season minus 2 All-Pros on the O-line that they had most of last year. So, not top 3. My guess is they'll be going Jenkins, Runyan, Myers, Patrick, Turner.

OTAs: May 24-25, and 27, plus June 1-2, 4, 14-15, and 17. With Love the only QB there who really knows the offense, he should be getting plenty of reps.

[RashanGary]

No OTAs. No minicamp. No preseason. We gonna judge him on a couple of weeks of training camp practices? WTF! Guy is basically a rookie this year.

He is absolutely NOT a rookie this year. Burrow, Tua and Herbert were true rookies last year. You have to expect Love to be on that level this year. Preseason should be a time he shines.

[Sparkey]

Interesting tidbit: Blake Bortles and Aaron Rodgers have the same number if wins in the playoffs since 2017.

[mgordo]

Rex Grossman has the same number of NFC Championship wins...

[Upnorth]

This is largely true. Not sure our OL are top 3 right now, but top 10 still and might be better. But yea, this offense is pretty well built, and even with 1 lost offseason, he had a season in the building. He has the things around him to succeed. They should have a pretty good idea in this preseason.

Yes sorry. I forgot we lost linsley and bahk is down now. I'm finifhimg seeding and desperately need sleep.

Tangent +85 or 90 yesterday and today. Snow coming Friday. Ahhh Saskatchewan

[Joemailman]

He is absolutely NOT a rookie this year. Burrow, Tua and Herbert were true rookies last year. You have to expect Love to be on that level this year. Preseason should be a time he shines.

Depends on how MLF wants to play it. You can bet those other guys last year were getting the lion's share of reps with the 1's to get them ready. Will MLF do that with Love, or will Love and Bortles be splitting reps with the 1's?

[Joemailman]

Interesting tidbit: Blake Bortles and Aaron Rodgers have the same number if wins in the playoffs since 2017.

Yeah, but that's when Bortles had Hackett as his OC. Oh wait. Okay.

[call_me_ishmael]

Man, media types really don't think he is coming back. Probably for the ratings but still. One would think there would be some clarity of this by this point.

[Joemailman]

Man, media types really don't think he is coming back. Probably for the ratings but still. One would think there would be some clarity of this by this point.

Hard to read this one. Lack of clarity could mean two sides are negotiating and keeping it out of the press. That would be good. On the other hand, Packers would have to trade him after June 1 to gain a bunch of salary cap room. So maybe any trade talks wouldn't get serious until that point. Packers mandatory minicamp starts June 8, so that first week of June should be interesting.

[texaspackerbacker]

Even if Love turns out to be good, he's in the Phil Bengtson situation - whatever he does won't be good enough. Arguably, Rodgers was in that situation too, following Favre, and he excelled enough to be the GOAT. I doubt we get that lucky again, not with Love or whoever follows Rodgers. I don't see 9 or 10 wins, more like 5 or 6.

RG, you talk about "hamstringing the team to keep Rodgers", hell no. That's not the way it is. 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, or 10 years, there's plenty of reason to expect continued excellence with Rodgers and plenty of reason to expect things to go in the crapper without him.

[RashanGary]

Depends on how MLF wants to play it. You can bet those other guys last year were getting the lion's share of reps with the 1's to get them ready. Will MLF do that with Love, or will Love and Bortles be splitting reps with the 1's?

Love will be getting ripped off if he's not the true 2 this year. Just trade him if you're gonna stunt him that bad.

[RashanGary]

Even if Love turns out to be good, he's in the Phil Bengtson situation - whatever he does won't be good enough. Arguably, Rodgers was in that situation too, following Favre, and he excelled enough to be the GOAT. I doubt we get that lucky again, not with Love or whoever follows Rodgers. I don't see 9 or 10 wins, more like 5 or 6.

RG, you talk about "hamstringing the team to keep Rodgers", hell no. That's not the way it is. 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, or 10 years, there's plenty of reason to expect continued excellence with Rodgers and plenty of reason to expect things to go in the crapper without him.

Tex I disagree. But I'll say this, I didn't dislike king as much as you early and didn't like Tonyan or Aaron Jones as much as you did, early. So I passively disagree with more than enough respect to know I could be wrong and you right.

[texaspackerbacker]

As I said when CMI basically said what you said, tough shit. It's not the Packers' mission to make Jordan Love happy. There's a helluva lot worse things than getting paid over $1 million to hold the proverbial clipboard. (pertaining to your post two above - you replied so quick that you slipped the other post in hahahaha)