AR wants out?!

[RashanGary]

Quick release QBs can mask a bad Online. Brady makes his line look better by getting rid of the ball quickly and by understanding the defense to make them pay for bringing pressure.

Rodgers adds value by extending plays. He created more chances for high return. In doing so, he also makes the O-line look worse.

Two different approaches by two of the best to play the game.

Rodgers proved he can shift his play to quicker releases last year and the results were amazing. That's good, because he'll need to do that more as he gets older. Brady, in the other hand, never had the ability to extend the way Rodgers did for most of his career.

I think this is what most of us see. Rodgers has changed in.his old age. He's better doing it the traditional way now because his legs aren't what they used to be.

[sharpe1027]

I guess a better way to say it is mobility compensates for defective O Line play. That's been the situation as long as Rodgers has been starting in Green Bay. I suppose you're right, that doesn't necessarily make the O Line look good, but it sure has gotten them a lot of praise over the years - way more than deserved IMO. The most telling thing about the O Line IMO is what happened with Rodgers out - some of the QBs running like scared rabbits back there due to the same kind of pass rush Rodgers faces game in and game out. I'm thinking in particular of Seneca Wallace.

For sure, but there's a legit argument that for awhile Rodgers waited too long too often instead of checking down and taking what the defense gave him.

Even so he was ridiculously good.

[Rutnstrut]

If it
s back to the Brady VS Rodgers debate. It's Brady hands down, the hardware is the only stat that matters.

[texaspackerbacker]

That's bullshit. It's about who is the best QB, Period. No more, no less.

[sharpe1027]

If it
s back to the Brady VS Rodgers debate. It's Brady hands down, the hardware is the only stat that matters.

Trent Dilfer is equal to Aaron Rodgers. Ben Roethlisberger is better.

No. Just, no.

[Upnorth]

If it
s back to the Brady VS Rodgers debate. It's Brady hands down, the hardware is the only stat that matters.

That's suxh a b.s. argument. Dan Marino is a shit qb in this mode of thinking. Eli manning is one of the greatest and in historty by this rational.

I don't want this to be Brady v rodgers. I want people to be rational about the value a qb has. A hof qb with a bad line never looks like a hof qb.
I admit that the qb has a higher impact on team quality than any other position, but oline is the second most important position group.

[wist43]

Brady has played for teams that have done a better job building teams capable of winning the SB.

Rodgers plays for the Packers who are more committed to the future and the draft than they are about winning Superbowls.

Talent comparison?? Rodgers is better. If's and buts, candy and nuts...

On the downside, Rodgers headcase prima donna act is a huge negative.

[sharpe1027]

Brady has played for teams that have done a better job building teams capable of winning the SB.

Hard to argue with this. The proof is in the results.

Rodgers plays for the Packers who are more committed to the future and the draft than they are about winning Superbowls.

I'd argue the Packers tried to win Superbowls by building for the future. Hell, they wouldn't even had drafted Rodgers if it wasn't for that type of approach.

Talent comparison?? Rodgers is better. If's and buts, candy and nuts...

On the downside, Rodgers headcase prima donna act is a huge negative.

I agree, although Brady is no saint.

[bobblehead]

If it
s back to the Brady VS Rodgers debate. It's Brady hands down, the hardware is the only stat that matters.

Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. So Eli is equal to Peyton and better than Rodgers. Bradshaw, Aikman, Big Ben, Elway, Jim Plunkett, and Bob Griese are all better than Rodgers. Flacco, Phil Simms, Jim McMahon, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Nick Foles are all his equals.

Yea, makes perfect sense.

[sharpe1027]

Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

That's a high bar if you follow Packer Rats. Doesn't make my top ten, but it's pretty silly.

[George Cumby]

That's a high bar if you follow Packer Rats. Doesn't make my top ten, but it's pretty silly.

Hold my beer and watch this!

[texaspackerbacker]

It showed up 4 times scrolling down my Facebook, almost as many times as the ads for mini-air conditioners or tiny battery powered chain saws, that Rodgers doesn't really want to leave the Packers at all, just using that as a negotiating ploy to get as long a long term extension as he wants - ya think? hahahaha.

[run pMc]

I don't want this to be Brady v rodgers. I want people to be rational about the value a qb has. A hof qb with a bad line never looks like a hof qb.
I admit that the qb has a higher impact on team quality than any other position, but oline is the second most important position group.

Agree... about the first part. I'd add a qualifier to OL being the 2nd most important position group on the offensive side of the ball.

[bobblehead]

That's a high bar if you follow Packer Rats. Doesn't make my top ten, but it's pretty silly.

Fair point. I think I once predicted Allan Babre would be a stud and that was pretty stupid.

[George Cumby]

Fair point. I think I once predicted Allan Babre would be a stud and that was pretty stupid.

I got you beat. I thought Burks had potential.