AR wants out?!

[Teamcheez1]

That Bart guy was a great hire. Loyalty over football expertise.

[Fritz]

And how about that Forrest Gregg hire? That was some good, serious loyalty there, too.

[texaspackerbacker]

The point is, Murphy and Gutekunst - assuming they aren't stupid - have something in mind other than what's good for the Packers and Packers fans. What that is I don't know - the bottom line financially or whatever? But clearly their goals are not what every Packer fan wants - winning football. Otherwise, they would NOT be doing their damnedest to drive away the GOAT QB.

You want to change the topic to the Starr hire and the Gregg hire? Throw in the Bengtson hire too. Those, I think, were misguided attempts to carry on the Lombardi tradition - failing to consider that Vince did it mostly through sheer force of will, which nobody else, even Starr had.

[bobblehead]

Just read an article quoting Rodgers:

“From a day-to-day (perspective), guys I see and talk to every day, guys like Preston Smith, and Allen Lazard, and Robert Tonyan, just the things that they talk about, that they’re into, I see a lot of growth in those guys. I see a lot of growth in other areas, too. Guys in the front office, coaches, and that’s really exciting to me… I’m not taking credit for any of it. I think that’d be the most egotistical thing to do. But I do know that part of my role is to continue to speak about things that are important to me, and positive and growth and that mindset is very important to me. And to see other people making those decisions to change and grow and better themselves is really cool.”

Dude, shut the fuck up. If you want to stay sign the contract and stop the passive aggressive bullshit trying to look like the big winner who changed the entire front office. "I'm not taking credit for any of it" Horseshit, you are trying to look like you really showed them and they are all bowing to your brilliance. Give it up. You might end up pissing Gutes off to the point that he decides to ship you off whether you want to or not. Personally I think Gutes is above that. He wouldn't make a petty choice to trade away a guy just cuz he is being a DBag, but you keep pushing and he might decide you aren't worth it.

[texaspackerbacker]

If those idiots in the front office who wanted to force him out, then hell yeah, he did change things for the better. We'll see how it all shakes out, but I've been saying all along, Rodgers will be in Green Bay for the foreseeable future - he damn well better be or the team is in the shitter. If imbeciles who didn't realize that before are now finally getting their heads out of their asses, then Rodgers will be here long term and the future is bright. If it goes the other way, the fans are screwed and fuck the front office bastards who caused it.

This statement from Rodgers looks like an olive branch thrown to Gutekunst and the other fools so they can give in from their previous idiocy looking too damn pathetic.

This whole thread shoulda been shitcanned a long time ago, but negativist fools keep dredging it up.

[call_me_ishmael]

Dude, shut the fuck up. If you want to stay sign the contract and stop the passive aggressive bullshit trying to look like the big winner who changed the entire front office. "I'm not taking credit for any of it" Horseshit, you are trying to look like you really showed them and they are all bowing to your brilliance. Give it up. You might end up pissing Gutes off to the point that he decides to ship you off whether you want to or not. Personally I think Gutes is above that. He wouldn't make a petty choice to trade away a guy just cuz he is being a DBag, but you keep pushing and he might decide you aren't worth it.

What contract is he signing? Per Aaron, they never offered him a contract with any guarantees beyond this or next year (I don't recall). So what is there to sign even? Meh, who knows what Gute's motivation is, but as I have said numerous times, from the day he picked Love, if he did that thinking Love was likely to win more games over the next 5 or 10 years for the Packers, he needs to have his head examined because that is extraorindarily unlikely. As always, my preferred path to getting a stud QB is to what the vast majority of other teams do that get studs - suck it up and pick #1.*

* My stance is as always if you do not have a top 5 QB to move on relentlessly and churn through them rapidly until you do.

[bobblehead]

If those idiots in the front office who wanted to force him out, then hell yeah, he did change things for the better. We'll see how it all shakes out, but I've been saying all along, Rodgers will be in Green Bay for the foreseeable future - he damn well better be or the team is in the shitter. If imbeciles who didn't realize that before are now finally getting their heads out of their asses, then Rodgers will be here long term and the future is bright. If it goes the other way, the fans are screwed and fuck the front office bastards who caused it.

This statement from Rodgers looks like an olive branch thrown to Gutekunst and the other fools so they can give in from their previous idiocy looking too damn pathetic.

This whole thread shoulda been shitcanned a long time ago, but negativist fools keep dredging it up.

To you and Rodgers it probably does look like an olive branch. To any thinking human being it looks like a guy gloating how he got you to change.

[bobblehead]

What contract is he signing? Per Aaron, they never offered him a contract with any guarantees beyond this or next year (I don't recall). So what is there to sign even? Meh, who knows what Gute's motivation is, but as I have said numerous times, from the day he picked Love, if he did that thinking Love was likely to win more games over the next 5 or 10 years for the Packers, he needs to have his head examined because that is extraorindarily unlikely. As always, my preferred path to getting a stud QB is to what the vast majority of other teams do that get studs - suck it up and pick #1.*

* My stance is as always if you do not have a top 5 QB to move on relentlessly and churn through them rapidly until you do.

Its the NFL. No one gets a 4 years garaunteed deal. They just don't work that way. You get a bunch of front money and small deals upfront. If you structure a deal with tons of front money and small deals on the back you put the team in instant cap hell. By all reports they offered him a record deal with a pretty hefty signing bonus that would have pretty much made him uncuttable for 2 more years. Thats about all any contract can do.

[Jaire]

Its the NFL. No one gets a 4 years garaunteed deal. They just don't work that way. You get a bunch of front money and small deals upfront. If you structure a deal with tons of front money and small deals on the back you put the team in instant cap hell. By all reports they offered him a record deal with a pretty hefty signing bonus that would have pretty much made him uncuttable for 2 more years. Thats about all any contract can do.

That's just B.S.

They never ever extended him. He is still on the trading block for next year. Every reliable report has said so. Brandt has said so consistently for six months now. They will trade him next year, unless Murphy & Gute change their mind. They are in the driver seat and have all the chips. Rodgers would have been very happy to sign a deal that assured him of staying in GB for two more years. As is, he is clearly on the trade block and likely to Denver where his fiancee's family is from. Not as ideal a division as GB's but a team that's really only missing a QB.

[texaspackerbacker]

To you and Rodgers it probably does look like an olive branch. To any thinking human being it looks like a guy gloating how he got you to change.

hahahahahaha Yeah, that too - gloat gloat gloat

The dumbasses needed to change!

[call_me_ishmael]

Its the NFL. No one gets a 4 years garaunteed deal. They just don't work that way. You get a bunch of front money and small deals upfront. If you structure a deal with tons of front money and small deals on the back you put the team in instant cap hell. By all reports they offered him a record deal with a pretty hefty signing bonus that would have pretty much made him uncuttable for 2 more years. Thats about all any contract can do.

He said that is not true, though. He emphatically stated that nothing in the contract suggested it would be guaranteed past this next year I believe.

Generally when a guarantee is essentially up the good players like Rodgers get a new deal.

[bobblehead]

In light of recent events this is a fun 82 page re read.

[RashanGary]

In light of recent events this is a fun 82 page re read.

People’s minds are exploding right now. Their hero is an anti vaxxer. Tex’s world is right.

[texaspackerbacker]

I feel better about all the shit after watching him today - partly for that reason, but mostly because he is in good shape/asymptomatic, which means he probably plays against Seattle.

[call_me_ishmael]

The Packers are a great team because Gootbag has done work. The best free agency any team has ever had with the 4 key contributors signing paired with these draft results:

Rashan Gary (1/12)
Jaire Alexander (1/18)
Darnell Savage (1/21)
Eric Stokes (1/29)
Elgton Jenkins (2/44)
AJ Dillon (2/62)
Josh Myers (2/62)
Amari Rodgers (3/85)
MVS (5/174)
Jon Runyan (6/192)
Kylin Hill (7/256)

I agree Amari Rodgers and Kylin Hill are reaches at this point but the rest are absolutely essential contributors. He has really done a nice job drafting to be honest.