AR wants out?!

[King Friday]

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[bobblehead]

Right. There was no welcome mat. He wanted to address the team on family night and the Packers wouldn't allow it. MM met with Favre the next day to gauge Favre's commitment to being the Packers QB before he would let Favre enter the locker room. . He did not come away satisfied. The Packers very much wanted Favre to retire. He wouldn't, so they traded him.

I recall the address the team that didn't happen as well, but I also clearly recall them saying they had prepared all offseason and in camp so far with Rodgers as the starter and if Brett decided to rejoin the team it would be as ARods back up. The NFL was livid because Favre was a ratings cash cow. I still believe they put serious pressure on the Packers to trade Favre. But MM definitely declared that Brent was the backup when he showed up "unretired".

[bobblehead]

As I've said all along... The Packers hold all of the cards here if Rodgers wants to keep playing in the NFL. With that in mind, the Packers should be making their intent clear to the Rodgers camp.

1. The Packers want Rodgers to be the QB in Green Bay as long as he is playing at a level that can win championships.
2. The Packers will NOT trade Rodgers before March 2022, regardless of what happens.
3. The Packers need to be able to have a chance to prepare for the current season, so Rodgers needs to make his decision by a certain date... Probably early August.

I think they have done all of that already. They pretty much have told him he will be the starter for the remainder of his contract unless his play drops off significantly. They probably have offered to restructure it in a way that assures that.

But the big concern is that Red is correct and Rodgers can go full metal asshole. He likely did it to MM. I do believe he tanked to get rid of MM. I watched him throw 10 yard passes in the dirt. He has never done that other than that season. So is he above faking an injury or playing subpar to put pressure on them to trade him? Hell yes. If Love is the answer at all you have to deal him if the right offer is on the table. In my life, guys like Rodgers don't last long. Once I recognize a drama queen I gently remove them from my orbit. If you are building a culture you can't let one player destroy it.

[Joemailman]

I recall the address the team that didn't happen as well, but I also clearly recall them saying they had prepared all offseason and in camp so far with Rodgers as the starter and if Brett decided to rejoin the team it would be as ARods back up. The NFL was livid because Favre was a ratings cash cow. I still believe they put serious pressure on the Packers to trade Favre. But MM definitely declared that Brent was the backup when he showed up "unretired".

I don't think the Packers had any intention of having Favre on the roster as a backup though. That would have been an absolute circus. They were trying to push Favre into retirement. In this year's case, Rodgers isn't going to retire. If the Packers can't convince Rodgers to want to play for the Packers, they have to trade him. If Rodgers doesn't want to be here, then having him here just makes Love's job even more stressful.

[bobblehead]

I don't think the Packers had any intention of having Favre on the roster as a backup though. That would have been an absolute circus. They were trying to push Favre into retirement. In this year's case, Rodgers isn't going to retire. If the Packers can't convince Rodgers to want to play for the Packers, they have to trade him. If Rodgers doesn't want to be here, then having him here just makes Love's job even more stressful.

Agree its very different for many reasons. Bottom line though, I would NOT let Rodgers poison his trade value and THEN give him what he wants. I wouldn't let him walk for a single first. Not worth it. They absolutely do not HAVE to trade him.

[texaspackerbacker]

As I've said all along... The Packers hold all of the cards here if Rodgers wants to keep playing in the NFL. With that in mind, the Packers should be making their intent clear to the Rodgers camp.

1. The Packers want Rodgers to be the QB in Green Bay as long as he is playing at a level that can win championships.
2. The Packers will NOT trade Rodgers before March 2022, regardless of what happens.
3. The Packers need to be able to have a chance to prepare for the current season, so Rodgers needs to make his decision by a certain date... Probably early August.

Good Points there. Supposing Rodgers did retire ....... the Packers would still own his rights that long, and could trade him later. As for your #1, anybody in their right mind - which presumably/hopefully includes Gutekunst - wants Rodgers playing in Green Bay. And as for #3, yes, it could drag on until early August - preseason games, but not much longer.

There's a whole lot of imagining and assuming going on in here hahahaha. I've said, virtually all posters in here have better sense than most of the God damned media. Well, you guys are making a liar out of me hahahahaha. I see all this speculation about what's in Rodgers' mind and what's in the minds of the Packers' front office, etc. - completely flying in the face of course, of anything they've said publicly. I really think Rodgers knows already what he's gonna do; He just ain't tellin' until he's damn good and ready. And I'm pretty sure that his decision will be to sign a fairly long term extension or at least a compromise thereof locking him up as a Packer for at least 3 years. And all this negative shit about Rodgers' attitude and motivation by know-nothings in here? He was a guy who saw the rug about to be pulled out from under him and took steps to prevent that. I sure can't fault him for that. I also can't fault him if he wants to make the Packer leadership sweat for a while, maybe quite a while. Now I guess I'm the one doing the speculating with no clear knowledge of what's in his mind. However, he's has showed nothing to indicate that his heart is not with Green Bay and Wisconsin in general.

I can't help wondering also, supposing that media shithead had never spewed the crap he did on draft day ....... how concerned would we be if Rodgers didn't show up at the voluntary ITA? How much doom and gloom would be circulating around in that scenario? I would guess not much.

[sharpe1027]

Rodgers could quash the whole thing in 30 seconds. The fact that he hasn't is all I need to know about where his priorities lie. Hint, it's not about his teammates or the fans.

The Packers have made their intentions clear. They want to stick with Rodgers. They reportedly want to sign him to an extension to make him the highest paid player. If Rodgers is in agreement, he's not saying so and has implied otherwise.

[texaspackerbacker]

But why the hell should he? He doesn't owe us anything, and if he owes the Packer brass anything, it's to make them sweat and squirm.

I hope that "reportedly" is true - you never know with the God damned media. If so, that's undoubtedly how this shit will all end - but not until Rodgers is damn good and ready.

[George Cumby]

He doesn't owe us anything, Correct. He doesn't owe us, the fans, anything.and if he owes the Packer brass anything, it's to make them sweat and squirm. Incorrect. He is under contract.

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[George Cumby]

Rodgers could quash the whole thing in 30 seconds.

This.

[sharpe1027]

But why the hell should he? He doesn't owe us anything, and if he owes the Packer brass anything, it's to make them sweat and squirm.

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It's the professional, mature approach. It's how I was raised. You don't screw people over to be vindictive. It's immature and shortsighted. Does he need to act like a professional, no. Can I have an opinion about how I feel about that, yes.

[SudsMcBucky]

Good Points there. Supposing Rodgers did retire ....... the Packers would still own his rights that long, and could trade him later. As for your #1, anybody in their right mind - which presumably/hopefully includes Gutekunst - wants Rodgers playing in Green Bay. And as for #3, yes, it could drag on until early August - preseason games, but not much longer.

There's a whole lot of imagining and assuming going on in here hahahaha. I've said, virtually all posters in here have better sense than most of the God damned media. Well, you guys are making a liar out of me hahahahaha. I see all this speculation about what's in Rodgers' mind and what's in the minds of the Packers' front office, etc. - completely flying in the face of course, of anything they've said publicly. I really think Rodgers knows already what he's gonna do; He just ain't tellin' until he's damn good and ready. And I'm pretty sure that his decision will be to sign a fairly long term extension or at least a compromise thereof locking him up as a Packer for at least 3 years. And all this negative shit about Rodgers' attitude and motivation by know-nothings in here? He was a guy who saw the rug about to be pulled out from under him and took steps to prevent that. I sure can't fault him for that. I also can't fault him if he wants to make the Packer leadership sweat for a while, maybe quite a while. Now I guess I'm the one doing the speculating with no clear knowledge of what's in his mind. However, he's has showed nothing to indicate that his heart is not with Green Bay and Wisconsin in general.

I can't help wondering also, supposing that media shithead had never spewed the crap he did on draft day ....... how concerned would we be if Rodgers didn't show up at the voluntary ITA? How much doom and gloom would be circulating around in that scenario? I would guess not much.

I could be wrong, but doesn't AR have an opt-out option after this coming year?

[jklowan]

Aaron Rodgers signed a four year, $134 million contract extension with the Packers on August 29, 2018. The contract has $98.2 million in guarantees including a $57.5M signing bonus. $78.7 million is fully guaranteed at signing. The contract particulars come from Joel Corry of CBS Sports who was the first with a full breakdown of the contract. Per Corry, Rodgers has roster bonuses in each of the first four years of the contract. The first two years of roster bonuses are fully guaranteed. The $19.5 million in 2020 is virtually guaranteed at signing and officially becomes fully guaranteed on the 3rd day of the waiver period in 2019. His 2022 roster bonus is due on the 3rd day of the league year. There are $4 million in incentives which are tied to playtime, performance and team success. Rodgers salary cap charge in 2018 increased by $337,500 and his cap charge in 2019 by $5.4 million as part of the extension.
Rodgers restructured his contract on December 26, 2019. Per ESPN Rodgers converted $14.26 million of a 2020 roster bonus into a signing bonus in 2019. The move increased Rodgers 2019 salary cap charge by $2.852 million and decreased his cap charge by $11.408 million in 2020.



Although he previously denied asking for an opt-out clause — or at least referred to it as conjecture — Rodgers admitted he asked for that on Thursday. He and his agent, David Dunn, also explored having Rodgers’ salary tied to a percentage of the salary cap.
Those were non-starters for the Packers.
Clearly, that’s why these negotiations took so long. They began just after the season ended.
Ultimately, it appears Rodgers took a more traditional deal because he knew it was best for the team. He again referred to his relationship with the Packers as a partnership.

[red]

I could be wrong, but doesn't AR have an opt-out option after this coming year?

not that i'm aware of

[red]

i'm fascinated with how gutey and murphy have been able to wrap themselves in the packers flag and make this whole thing out to be rodgers vs the packers, and of course most fans have sided with the team

this is not rodgers vs the packers. rodgers has made it very clear that this is him vs the front office (gutey and murphy)

mark murphy and brain gutiwhatever are no more the green bay packers then rodgers or any other player is

would people side with rodgers more if the fake owner who owns nothing and the GM whos has only been with the team only a few years hadn't convinced the fans that they are more then just employees?