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  • #16
    Except Darnold has had 4 years of live practices and games to be who he is. Love had not had any of those opportunities. The only benefit he has is watching Rodgers and getting a year in the play book.

    The year In college that Love had some talent around him he looked really good. The next year, after a lot of graduation losses on the online and wr, he wasn't as good. Seemed to try and force things. Not surprising, but hopefully a good lesson that he took to heart.

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    • #17
      Todd McShays #3 QB in 2020 Draft. Ahead of Herbert.

      Last edited by Sparkey; 05-01-2021, 07:45 AM.

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        • #19
          Basically, Love has all the physical gifts needed to be a good NFL qb. Makes throws that you can't teach and can throw and improvise without have a perfect platform. Hopefully the coaches help him tap into his full potential.

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          • #20
            We drafted a developmental QB in a year where we really couldn't develop him due to the pandemic. Listened to two scouts on radio the head of draft for PFW. One scout would have had him ahead of Mac Jones; one scout behind Mac Jones. The PFW guy would rate in along with the second tier for QB's this year (so lower than those guys).

            He needs at least another year to develop as a passer; he's a good athlete though.
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #21
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              There would be a significant cap hit to cut him this year. He will probably be fairly cheap for his first 5 years. Ideally, we keep Rodgers that whole 5 and 1 more, as if Love proves to be good, we can re-sign him with a bonus and have a fairly low cap hit the first year of his second contract. If he turns out to be a piece of crap, we can cut him whenever it's feasible with the cap. The smart thing to do - which I still think the Packers will do - is to ride Rodgers as long as possible.
              It sure does sound like Rodgers, like my wife, does not want to be ridden any more.

              On a more serious note, this of course is not about the money at all for Rodgers. He's got enough money to last two lifetimes. It's about ego. The Packers dared to draft someone high at the position he plays and he got his nose out of joint. When the Packers didn't bow low enough and immediately extend him, he decided he wasn't "appreciated" enough any more. Of course, he must have realized last year that the way he'd been playing/getting hurt the previous few years, he didn't have the cards to make a play. Maybe he even had some self-doubt. But his play this past year erased any doubts, and he had his trump card.

              As a friend of mine pointed out, it is surely no accident that Rodgers let it be known on draft day, one year after the Packers drafted Love, that he wanted out of Green Bay. That's called being passive-aggressive. He trumped the draft day hoopla.

              As much of a completely selfish and hypocritical jackass as he is ("Oooh, it was all about the close relationships I developed this year with my teammates. I love these guys."), he's still one of the all-time great QB's in the league, and it seems like he's still got some gas in the tank. My hope is that the Packers suck his dick enough so that he'd accept a two or even three year extension with all the dollars that will prove (for the moment) that Aaron really is loved and respected.

              Then hope some linebacker doesn't take him out in the second game of the season.

              That would give Love another year or two to develop. And if Rodgers is still playing great in two years, you can figure out what to do then.

              But it sounds like that is not likely to happen. Rodgers seems to have, by most accounts, poured diesel fuel on the bridges and lit the match.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #22
                He's a multiyear project (most likely 3 years due to Covid) but there's talent to work with. There's nothing wrong with drafting a backup to your 37 year old QB, especially if their previous 2 seasons were somewhat underwhelming.

                Will Jordan Love realize his potential? The odds are against it, but lots of R1 picks -- especially QBs -- flame out. Finding a good one is incredibly valuable, and that's why 4-5 go high every year.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                  He's a multiyear project (most likely 3 years due to Covid) but there's talent to work with. There's nothing wrong with drafting a backup to your 37 year old QB, especially if their previous 2 seasons were somewhat underwhelming.

                  Will Jordan Love realize his potential? The odds are against it, but lots of R1 picks -- especially QBs -- flame out. Finding a good one is incredibly valuable, and that's why 4-5 go high every year.
                  That's it exactly. Gutekunst's job isn't to soothe his high-strung quarterback's ego at the expense of the team's future. Yet, sadly, part of his job is to soothe his high-strung quarterback's ego - but to what extent? By not planning for the future at that position at all because it would hurt your star QB's feelings?
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #24
                    Kid is athletic AF with a live arm. Reminds me of Mahomes.

                    He's got real potential.

                    Comes down to coaching and providing him the support as he needs and what is between his ears.

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                    • #25
                      I hope he does not get thrown to the wolves this season. I think at least two years on the bench is the way to give a guy a chance to learn without destroying his confidence if he gets thrown in too quickly.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        I hope he does not get thrown to the wolves this season. I think at least two years on the bench is the way to give a guy a chance to learn without destroying his confidence if he gets thrown in too quickly.
                        At least he'd have a solid run game and set of receiving targets.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                          I hope he does not get thrown to the wolves this season. I think at least two years on the bench is the way to give a guy a chance to learn without destroying his confidence if he gets thrown in too quickly.
                          Agreed.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            It sure does sound like Rodgers, like my wife, does not want to be ridden any more.

                            On a more serious note, this of course is not about the money at all for Rodgers. He's got enough money to last two lifetimes. It's about ego. The Packers dared to draft someone high at the position he plays and he got his nose out of joint. When the Packers didn't bow low enough and immediately extend him, he decided he wasn't "appreciated" enough any more.

                            Man, that was funny. LOL is a stupid internet thing but I did literally laugh out loud and I think you are right. Man, that was funny.

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                            • #29
                              Glad we can still have a laugh here once in a while. Glad someone got the joke.

                              Good to see you around, Ras.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #30
                                If somebody fucks, they fuck right away. The Packers know how good he is. No doubt about it. ARod was throwing dimes right away in practice according to Brandt.

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