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  • Packers 2021 draft class

    Can't believe none of you nimrods started a thread on the draft class as a whole?? Too busy with the latest drama I guess

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    Green Bay Packers 2021 NFL Draft Picks:

    Round 1: No. 29 – Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia
    Round 2: No. 62 – Josh Myers, C, Ohio State
    Round 3: No. 85 – Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson
    Round 4: No. 142 (Compensatory) – Royce Newman, OG, Ole Miss
    Round 5: No. 173 – Tedarrell Slaton, DT, Florida
    Round 5: No. 178 (Compensatory) – Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State
    Round 6: No. 214 – Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin
    Round 6: No. 220 (Compensatory) – Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College
    Round 7: No. 256 – Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State

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    As for the picks themselves, I'm reasonably familiar with Stokes, Myers, Rodgers, and Slaton. I looked at those guys before the draft.

    Still have to review the rest, but my initial impression is the two CB picks seem shaky. I looked at Jean-charles tape and came away, meh

    As I said in another thread, Stokes' footwork and change of direction are concerning. Good route runners are going to send him spinning. He's going to need to study a lot of film and get some serious coaching.

    Liked what I saw of Hill.

    Have a lot of tape to watch to get up to speed on these guys.
    wist

  • #2
    Newman's tape looks pretty good.

    Slaton's problem is conditioning.
    wist

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    • #3
      Originally posted by wist43 View Post
      Newman's tape looks pretty good.

      Slaton's problem is conditioning.
      He sure seems to have a lot of promise, but of course there's a reason he fell to the fifth round.

      If - a big if - he can get serious about conditioning and viewing this as his profession, he could be very, very good.

      I find it interesting too that Gutekunst did not take a flyer later in the draft on athletic guys who maybe, just maybe, could figure it out. Looks like most of the late-round guys are fitted for special teams duty period. Maybe the Packers are tired of having a bottom-five special teams unit nearly every year. I mean,I know most late-round guys end up as special teamers, but I think sometimes Ted took flyers on really good athletes, in hopes of finding a diamond in the rough. Not that it works out too often.

      The one pick that really mystifies me is that fifth-round corner they took, Shemale Jean-Claude Van Damme. Small, not particularly athletic. I wonder what they saw.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #4
        I think Kylin Hill was a steal in the 7th. He is well rounded and pretty solid. RB is set for a couple years until Jones is opted out.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • #5
          He did seem like a pretty good, solid pick from the bits I read.
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #6
            The Jean-Charles pick seems like an anti-measurables pick. Maybe that's a good thing. The pack have had all these backups with exceptional measurables, but they always seem to make mental mistakes in coverage. This pick is just the opposite. Average measurables but, by all accounts, incredible awareness and football IQ. He also seems eager on special teams. As a depth piece, I'll take assignment sure every time. Hopefully he can translate his positives on the field at the next level.

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            • #7
              If Newsome plays early on and gets hammered, I want to hear an announcer say "I can't believe it - that defender just rolls Royce!"
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                If we had gotten nobody decent beyond Stokes in the first round, I'd be moderately satisfied, as we got what seems to be an excellent player at exactly the position I wanted. The rest of the draft, however, seems pretty solid too, though. Myer is bigger and faster than Linsley and supposedly very smart. I wouldn't be surprised also with his size if he gets a try at tackle and can play there too. With him and Newman and Van Laanen, the O Line should be set up pretty good. I heard that the staff was thrilled about Jean-Charles falling to them. There were a couple other Corners I was hoping for at that point, but I'll defer to the experts and hope for the best. I started out negative about Rodgers - the new WR - but from what I read, he too seems to be a keeper. So conditioning is Slaton's flaw? I'll take him anyway. Maybe we got the next Gilbert Brown hahahaha.
                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                  If Newsome plays early on and gets hammered, I want to hear an announcer say "I can't believe it - that defender just rolls Royce!"
                  That would be priceless. Lol

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                  • #10
                    SEC...........4
                    Big 10........2
                    ACC...........2
                    Other.........1

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                    • #11
                      They've drafted a lot of OL tweeners: Hansen, Stepaniak, Runyan, Myers, Newman, Van Lanen... that's a lot of OL additions. They should have plenty of OL depth on the PS lol.
                      I think Myers gets first crack at starting C, else he's C/G depth and they probably go with Patrick or Jenkins. Myers is NOT a tackle; he has tackle size but he lacks length and is better inside.
                      I think they try Newman at RT and kick him in to G to compete with Stepaniak. Not sure if they've tried Stepaniak at C, he seems like a G and that's it.

                      Van Lanen I'm not sure what they do with. Probably same idea as Newman -- he tested suprisingly well and is could probably get you out of a game at RT but I get the feeling his best pro position is at guard. Wouldn't bet against a Badger though.

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                      • #12
                        Stokes is a high upside pick with some raw that needs coaching, and I'm ok with that. He seems pretty coachable and showed year-over-year growth as a CB. He's grabby but he's a better athlete than Josh Jackson, so he's likely to be out there in dime situations. Improving team speed can't hurt.

                        They absolutely needed another CB, even if it was a UDFA. The scouts all say Jean-Charles isn't a great athlete and from what little youtube I saw of him, he will struggle against a burner but he's good at contesting the catch and seems to have some instincts. I think they will ease him along but try him in the slot first. He's enthusiastic about special teams and that's his pathway to snaps initially anyway.

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                        • #13
                          Kylin Hill seems like a bit of a high strung guy but IIRC he led the SEC in rushing one year -- which is no small feat -- and has a power component to his game. He can catch and is willing to pass pro, so I can see shades of Jamaal Williams to him.

                          I liked Khalil Herbert a little better but Hill is a pretty good get especially in the 7th round. He's better than Devante Mays or Deshawn Wynn was coming out of CFB, that's for sure. He should beat Dexter Williams for a spot, either on the 53 or the PS. I'd give all those fringe RB guys (Hill, DexterW., P.Taylor, M.Weber) a ton of snaps in preseason to separate the wheat from the chaff.

                          I was expecting them to get a little scat burner back like a Javian Hawkins, I'm guessing Amari Rodgers is going to do some of that.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                            I think Kylin Hill was a steal in the 7th. He is well rounded and pretty solid. RB is set for a couple years until Jones is opted out.
                            sounds like a good RB before a coaching change

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                              The Jean-Charles pick seems like an anti-measurables pick. Maybe that's a good thing. The pack have had all these backups with exceptional measurables, but they always seem to make mental mistakes in coverage. This pick is just the opposite. Average measurables but, by all accounts, incredible awareness and football IQ. He also seems eager on special teams. As a depth piece, I'll take assignment sure every time. Hopefully he can translate his positives on the field at the next level.
                              What is a 178 pound guy going to do in pros on special teams? He'll get bullied if they try and use him as a gunner. He'll break in two returning punts.

                              I'm calling that pip squeak "Rudy"

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