Packers 2021 draft class

[HarveyWallbangers]

I didn't like the Myers pick in round 2 or the small, slow, small college CB in round 5. I liked the rest of the draft.

[wist43]

I think the 3 shakiest picks are,

Stokes
Slaton
Jean-Charles

Stokes has short area burst issues, Slaton is more likely to eat himself out of the league than succeed, and Jean-Charles has limited speed and measurables.

Everyone else I like.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think the 3 shakiest picks are,

Stokes
Slaton
Jean-Charles

Stokes has short area burst issues, Slaton is more likely to eat himself out of the league than succeed, and Jean-Charles has limited speed and measurables.

Everyone else I like.

What's the reasoning behind this? I read a bio on NFL.com saying something about his weight, but that goes against other things that I've read about him. Perhaps it was because he was listed at 360 at Florida. However, he didn't play at that weight. Draft Network said before his testing that he didn't look 360--more likely 330. Sure enough, he came in at 330 at his Pro Day. Yes, he's a big dude. NTs tend to have a gut (see Snacks Harrison), but this guy isn't that out of shape, and he's supposed to be a high effort guy..

Obviously, almost all NTs have the possibility of eating themselves out of the league (Gilbert Brown toed the line his whole career), but why worry about this guy more than other 3-4 NTs? The reports I read about him actually had me bump him up in my ratings higher than a typical 3-4 NT for three reasons: effort guy, has matured and kept his weight in check later in his college career, and could provide at least a little bit as a pass rusher.

[Joemailman]

What's the reasoning behind this? I read a bio on NFL.com saying something about his weight, but that goes against other things that I've read about him. Perhaps it was because he was listed at 360 at Florida. However, he didn't play at that weight. Draft Network said before his testing that he didn't look 360--more likely 330. Sure enough, he came in at 330 at his Pro Day. Yes, he's a big dude. NTs tend to have a gut (see Snacks Harrison), but this guy isn't that out of shape, and he's supposed to be a high effort guy..

Obviously, almost all NTs have the possibility of eating themselves out of the league (Gilbert Brown toed the line his whole career), but why worry about this guy more than other 3-4 NTs? The reports I read about him actually had me bump him up in my ratings higher than a typical 3-4 NT for three reasons: effort guy, has matured and kept his weight in check later in his college career, and could provide at least a little bit as a pass rusher.

I've read on some sites that he had weight fluctuations on college. PFN claims that he dropped 30 pounds since the end of his senior season.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/t...ensive-tackle/

Analysis: Slaton displayed the ability to clog the middle of the field and push the pocket at the college level, but he must round into a complete defensive lineman if he’s to play on Sundays. He’s dropped almost 30 pounds since the end of his senior season and is headed in the right direction. Slaton’s size and power will get consideration from two-gap defenses, and at the very least, he’s worth stashing on a practice squad next fall.

Not sure who is right on this subject. He could be a considerable upgrade over Lancaster though if he can keep his weight around 330.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Draft Network had this:

Tedarrell Slaton is an impressively built interior defensive line prospect. He's listed at nearly 360 pounds, but looks much slimmer than his listed weight—he looks around 330 pounds and carries his weight well with an evenly distributed body structure.

[Zool]

What's the reasoning behind this?

Negativity makes some feel superior.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'm optimistic. I really like the Gooter quote about TT wanting Clay Matthews and saying pay as little as possible but ensure it happens and him relating that to the receiver they took. It would be amazingggg if it worked out as well!

I really like the emphasis on the OL. Would have liked to see a premier athletic tackle taken high but oh well, thems the breaks.

[wist43]

The reason Slaton's weight gets brought up is b/c of the problems he's had with conditioning.

All of those big guys need a blow and need to be part of a rotation, but Slaton had to be removed from games at times b/c he wore down.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The reason Slaton's weight gets brought up is b/c of the problems he's had with conditioning.

All of those big guys need a blow and need to be part of a rotation, but Slaton had to be removed from games at times b/c he wore down.

There were two other big, traditional, run stuffing 3-4 NTs drafted this year, Tyler Shelvin (4th round) and Quinton Bohanna (6th round). Here are their scouting reports:

Shelvin:

Conditioning has been an issue

Bohanna:

Any team who invests in Bohanna will need to hope that he’s able to maintain his reduced size after he showed up at his Pro Day approximately 30 pounds lighter than his listed weight (357 lbs) on the Kentucky roster.

Being 340+ pounds is not natural. It's pretty much a concern with any of those guys. I'm encouraged to read that he seems like he gives good effort and that he maintained his weight this year. I suspect it will always be a concern--just like it was with the Gravedigger--but I have hopes for the guy. If he wants it, he has a role. We'll see.

[King Friday]

The next time that I hear the phrase "that 340 lb nose tackle is ready to run a marathon tomorrow" will be my first.

[run pMc]

I'm not worried about it. It's normal for guys that big and he seems to have worked at it. My guess is the coaches will keep at him and he'll toe the line. Honestly, he probably won't see a ton of snaps per game anyway.
One thing I did notice is he seemed to stay on his feet, so that should be an upgrade over Lancaster.

[bobblehead]

I've read on some sites that he had weight fluctuations on college. PFN claims that he dropped 30 pounds since the end of his senior season.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/t...ensive-tackle/


Not sure who is right on this subject. He could be a considerable upgrade over Lancaster though if he can keep his weight around 330.

Rashod Bateman shed 2" of height before his proday. Just sayin' don't believe everything you read on the college program.

[wist43]

There were two other big, traditional, run stuffing 3-4 NTs drafted this year, Tyler Shelvin (4th round) and Quinton Bohanna (6th round). Here are their scouting reports:

Shelvin:



Bohanna:



Being 340+ pounds is not natural. It's pretty much a concern with any of those guys. I'm encouraged to read that he seems like he gives good effort and that he maintained his weight this year. I suspect it will always be a concern--just like it was with the Gravedigger--but I have hopes for the guy. If he wants it, he has a role. We'll see.

The interior guy I wanted in those later rounds was Jonathan Marshall. He went in the 6th.

[RashanGary]

DL you have to keep taking stabs. You never know a guys work ethic or body potential until they’re in their mid 20s, sometimes 25 years old. So you throw darts every year and keep the ones that stick.

Keke looks to be progressing well. He’s probably gonna be better in 2021 than any DL from the 2021 class. It’s a position that takes a little time and is impossible to predict.

They threw a dart. They should throw one every year at that DL board.

[sharpe1027]

I think DL has high (unrealistic?) expectations for what constitutes a solid stater such that everyone's always looking for something better. Similar thing could be said for QB.