Packers 2021 draft class

[hoosier]

Good DL are so much harder to find than good WRs. And a strong DL can really disrupt the game and make up for deficiencies in other areas of the defense. Think what the NYG did to Pats in SBs XLI and XLV. A great WR, meanwhile, will be Calvin Johnson or AJ Green if you don't provide him with a strong supporting cast.

[bobblehead]

REAL QUESTION

WHO in here would have picked Stokes over Christian Barmore ? or did we just go Need ? Need is what I thought we did round 2 for sure over BPA

I would have traded back with about 7 guys I like on the board. After reading up on Stokes and how he fared against big names I am down with the pick.

But honestly, Stokes, JOK, Barmore, Jenkins, Eichemburg, Elijah Moore, Radunz, Bolton, Marshall. I could have been pleased with any of those picks, or 2 of them after we used the trade back capital to then trade up with our own 2nd. Do you like Stokes/Myers better than JOK/Jenkins? I don't.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I would have traded back with about 7 guys I like on the board. After reading up on Stokes and how he fared against big names I am down with the pick.

But honestly, Stokes, JOK, Barmore, Jenkins, Eichemburg, Elijah Moore, Radunz, Bolton, Marshall. I could have been pleased with any of those picks, or 2 of them after we used the trade back capital to then trade up with our own 2nd. Do you like Stokes/Myers better than JOK/Jenkins? I don't.

Dmitroff, the former Falcons GM, was on a PFF podcast I watched yesterday. He said it isn't always easy to trade up or down in the draft--especially around the end of the 1st round. You have to have a dance partner.

[wist43]

REAL QUESTION

WHO in here would have picked Stokes over Christian Barmore ? or did we just go Need ? Need is what I thought we did round 2 for sure over BPA

The problem all of us have with woulda, coulda, shoulda on any defensive picks is Berry.

We simply have no idea what he's going to do or how he's going to use anybody. With Capers you knew he was going to run a static 2-4 75% of the time, so it didn't matter who the players were, we were going to get powned.

Pettine on the other hand was multiple all the time... light years better, good DC. We're going to miss him.

Berry?? We have no idea, but color me very, very skeptical.

[Fritz]

This did seem like a need draft moreso than any other Gutes has run. Needed a corner? First round. Needed a replacement center for the guy you just lost? Second round. Need a slot guy to make the offense work right? Check, third round. Need a big body in the middle on defense? Check, fifth round. Need to improve on those abysmal special teams rankings? Check, fifth, sixth, and seventh rounds.

[texaspackerbacker]

This was the way you're supposed to conduct a draft. I don't know if Gutekunst knew how bad he fucked up last year, and wanted to make up for it this year or impress Rodgers or what, but somehow, good sense was used. You don't suppose those ongoing negotiations with Rodgers resulted in some Rodgers input, do you? hahahaha

[smuggler]

I was thinking about the draft tonight and I thought it would make a pretty good group of players even if you didn't include Stokes. Hope springs eternal.

[Joemailman]

This was the way you're supposed to conduct a draft. I don't know if Gutekunst knew how bad he fucked up last year, and wanted to make up for it this year or impress Rodgers or what, but somehow, good sense was used. You don't suppose those ongoing negotiations with Rodgers resulted in some Rodgers input, do you? hahahaha

Now I'm a little nervous about this draft.

[smuggler]

Now I'm a little nervous about this draft.

I also felt this way, but didn't want to speak it into truth.

This year's draft will be more of a crapshoot than drafts usually are. And that's impressive. We will see how our beloved squad benefited or suffered due to the Covid madness.

[Joemailman]

Round 1: No. 29 – Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia
Round 2: No. 62 – Josh Myers, C, Ohio State
Round 3: No. 85 – Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson
Round 4: No. 142 (Compensatory) – Royce Newman, OG, Ole Miss
Round 5: No. 173 – Tedarrell Slaton, DT, Florida
Round 5: No. 178 (Compensatory) – Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State
Round 6: No. 214 – Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin
Round 6: No. 220 (Compensatory) – Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College
Round 7: No. 256 – Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State

Stokes will be interesting. Some have called this pick a reach to fill a need. I see this as Gute going after a guy he feels has a ton of upside. Probably no CB in college faced more of the top WR's in the last 2 years. He's tested.

Myers, Rodgers and Newman are all really solid, low floor picks.They've played against top competition. This can be a great draft if these guys are more than JAGs.

The 2 5th round picks are kind of opposites. Slaton is a physical specimen who needs to show he can make plays. SJC is a real player who needs to show he's enough of an athlete to excel in the NFL.

Don't have a sense yet about McDuffie. Hopefully he's an upgrade over Burks and/or Summers.

Hill has a chance to be a steal. Opting out after the season started probably hurt his draft status. Based on his 2019 season, he probably should have been drafted in the 4-5 rounds.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think for me the biggest take away from the draft is the Packers are thinking Jenkins is the RT of the future. That's my hot take of the year, but it's hard not to think that when they acquired three inside linemen.

[smuggler]

Yes, they have a lot of bodies that can compete, participate, and potentially (especially in the case of Junior Runyan) excel in the interior. They need that on the outside, which is why they needed to extend Bakhtiari.

[texaspackerbacker]

Now I'm a little nervous about this draft.

I suppose you'd prefer a debacle like last year's draft?

[texaspackerbacker]

Stokes will be interesting. Some have called this pick a reach to fill a need. I see this as Gute going after a guy he feels has a ton of upside. Probably no CB in college faced more of the top WR's in the last 2 years. He's tested.

Myers, Rodgers and Newman are all really solid, low floor picks.They've played against top competition. This can be a great draft if these guys are more than JAGs.

The 2 5th round picks are kind of opposites. Slaton is a physical specimen who needs to show he can make plays. SJC is a real player who needs to show he's enough of an athlete to excel in the NFL.

Don't have a sense yet about McDuffie. Hopefully he's an upgrade over Burks and/or Summers.

Hill has a chance to be a steal. Opting out after the season started probably hurt his draft status. Based on his 2019 season, he probably should have been drafted in the 4-5 rounds.

Stokes, and throw in Myers and maybe Newman too were undoubtedly a product of somebody telling Gutekunst (or maybe even his telling himself) "you damn well better not fuck up again and totally ignore the needs of the team".

Amari Rodgers was likely a result of Gutekunst either giving into or buying into himself the "need" some perceive to draft a WR. At least he had the good sense to draft the type we did need - a returner/slot type.

Slaton was likely a matter of finally waking up to the idea that we needed somebody with some size and strength beside Clark - a reaction to a few years of Lowery and Lancaster.

Jean-Charles probably is a product of the idea, "you can never have too many good Corners". He was a good choice it seems in the sense that he's something we sort of need, a slot Corner as well as somebody their stff saw as a bargain at that point. I had been hoping for one of several others, but I'm now content with Jean-Charles

McDuffie is a late concession to those who thought we needed an ILB. He sounds decent, but 6th round you never know.

Hill was a high rated HS recruit who sounds a lot like Jamal Williams. If not, we have 3 or 4 other candidates for that roster spot.

As I have said, there's absolutely nothing wrong with drafting what you need - it's the good and normal way to conduct a draft. Either Gutekunst suddenly woke up, or somebody gave him a good talking to.

[wist43]

I'm fine with a CB in rd1, I just would have preferred Campbell, but with Jenkins still there, and JOK... I would have gone with one of them.

I'm fine with an interior lineman in rd 2, except i would have preferred Creed.

Like the Rodgers pick, like the Newman, Hill, and Mcduffie picks as well.

Slaton is worth a flyer.