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Sarcasm sparkey. Sarcasm. I was actually mocking MYSELF.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi -
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Totally (besides the fact TT would not have drafted Love).
TT was loyal to a fault.
It's the way Gute cut CMIII. The way he cut Jordy. The way he cut MM. The way he cut Jake. This did not sit well with a lot of players I'm sure.
Davante confirms it too. He's probably the only one who will "speak out." Both Arod's and Adam's Twitter likes reveal a lot imo. If Gute forces Arod out, no one will come to GB and I expect a lot of players to leave. No GM forces an MVP to leave early. Favre was a different story.
Gute needs to go but I doubt Murphy will do that. LIS in another thread it was a good 30 year run. Things have been collapsing since 2014. They needed a better GM but I'm not sure there was one.
The only shot at this point is if they give AR a long term deal. I don't think it is irreconcilable. Media spin is bliwing it up a bit bigger than it probably is too. Someone like Brandt maybe could help out but I put low odds on it.
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Was he referencing you or Rodgers? Your assumption that it was you suggests an inflated sense of self....Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
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I don't know that you can say TT wouldn't have drafted Love. He was a GM that was thoroughly invested in researching players and building a board and then sticking to it. If his board had Love in the top 10 and he was there at 26 he very well could drafted him. Reaching for a player of need versus taking a player you consider elite is a dangerous route to head down. Now whether he would have traded up for him when obviously he knew what he had in Rodgers and there was no retirement drama, maybe not.
Either way, I would have thought that Rodgers would have asked for a trade this time last year after the drafting of Love given he we were so close the year before and taking a developmental QB doesn't help the team immediately in any way possible.
Why wouldn't we be having the discussion in May of 2020? Some might say it was the cutting of Kumerow (doubtful) or more likely Brady heading to the Bucs and having a say in things there and it leading to a Super Bowl (a lot had to fall right for that and we still should have beaten them in the championship game).
Unless it was the Brady experiment leading to nirvana, I still think that he might not have pulled this if TT was still with the Packers or at least gone about it in a better manner for both sides.60% of the time it works every time.Comment
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They didn't cut CMIII. He was a free agent. He played 1 more year. They cut Jordy. He played 1 more year. They fired MM because he'd clearly lost the team. Kumerow was a bottom of the roster guy who was replaced by a younger guy probably based on special teams ability.Originally posted by Jaire View Post
Where do you get the idea that Gute is trying to force Rodgers out? All evidence is to the contrary. Rodgers is trying to force his way out due to his feud with Gute. You're right. No GM forces an MVP to leave early. Including this one.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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TT drafted Rodgers because he saw great value in the pick. He would have drafted Love for the same reason if he rated home highly. I can't say whether personality differences would have made a difference for Rodgers. Part of me thinks this was an inevitable result of not winning it all again. Nothing solid to back that up, however.Comment
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Rodgers "feud" with Gute is now become all spin to make AR look like the bad guy. I can't believe how people support this FO as they are making one of the stupidest decision in NFL history.
His teammates know better: "We made it to the championship game the last two years and he was the biggest reason why... Before it's said and done, I want a ring and a lot of that weighs on him." - Marcedes Lewis (whom CLEARLY AR never told he was not coming back contrary to false reports).
Also check out Backtiari's top like on his Twitter. All the players know it. LaFleur knows it. This is franchise destroying idiocy. TT would not ever handle it this way. Favre said he was retiring is not the same as Arod saying he wants to retire in GB and then following up with an MVP season. Not to mention Hawk confirmed AR does not want Gute fired (he should be).
Gute does not want more than a one year deal with AR. They want to trade him after next year for a QB that hasn't played a snap and they really have no idea about. Rodgers wants some kind of future and he has a right to that. Gute needs to go. I have no idea how this can be spun against AR. And no clue why Packers fans aren't calling for Gute's head.Comment
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There is not one owner in the NFL that would let Rodgers get away.
The NFL and FOs are very adept at spinning these splits and feuds to make the player look like the bad guy. Mercedes Lewis just signed a contract April 4. He would have been one of the FAs Rodgers told he wasn't coming back. It's all spin to put the blame on Arod.Comment
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Could be. Could also be that Rodgers isn't perfect and the truth is in the middle.Comment
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