Which Trade Package?

[Upnorth]

We could have Russell Wilson, Stafford, anybody you can name other than maybe Mahomes, and the team is at best lower half of the NFL. This whole "thought exercise" is stupid. It reminds me of the Three Stooges" thought exercise - would you rather have your head chopped off or get burned at the stake?. Moe and Larry chose head chopped off, but Curly said, "not me. I'd rather have hot stake than cold chops".

I think you ment at worst top half of the league. Great ol rb olb and s. Very good place kicker. Above average te. Average wr. Below average dl and ilb. Shit special teams. No way are we below half.

Average CB if stokes is a bust. Good if he is ok.

[sharpe1027]

I don't get it ..... are you saying the Three Stooges are a chick flock? Or this poll is a chick flick? The only one I called stupid is you, Sharpe.

Chick flick is this thread. You're the person coming into the movie theatre just to tell everyone how stupid you think the movie is.

[Zool]

Denver if they can leave Lock behind. They a,ready signed a mediocre QB this off-season. Why add another?

[texaspackerbacker]

I think you ment at worst top half of the league. Great ol rb olb and s. Very good place kicker. Above average te. Average wr. Below average dl and ilb. Shit special teams. No way are we below half.

Average CB if stokes is a bust. Good if he is ok.

I hope you're right, and more than that, I hope we never get to find out one way or the other - not for at least 4 or 5 years anyway. I can't help thinking, though, everybody else on offense is made better by Rodgers, even Jones, who I have an extremely high opinion of, and arguably even the defense is better because of Rodgers and the offense getting ahead on the scoreboard and/or keeping them off the field. Nobody is more optimistic than I am - most of the time, but losing basically the best player ever to play the game would IMO drag the Packers way down - I stand by lower half record-wise or worse even with a lot of pretty good players still there.

[red]

i wouldn't want any of their shitty QB's as part of the deal

[Bretsky]

Denver if they can leave Lock behind. They a,ready signed a mediocre QB this off-season. Why add another?

Blake Bortles is mediocre ? )

[HarveyWallbangers]

i wouldn't want any of their shitty QB's as part of the deal

I'd take Carr. He's kind of in that Kirk Cousins range at QB--which might allow the Pack to win the division if Love isn't ready in the next two years. His contract fits (under $20M/year for the next 2 years and could be cut with $0 dead cap space after this season), and I think he could be pretty good with MLF. I don't want Lock or Tua. I'd take Love over those two guys at this point--and that would be quite the circus the team would have to deal with.

[King Friday]

Favre fetched a 3rd round pick. This kind of drama doesn’t always end in a treasure.

Favre wasn't on the market the year after a 42 year old QB won the super bowl.

[King Friday]

I hope you're right, and more than that, I hope we never get to find out one way or the other - not for at least 4 or 5 years anyway. I can't help thinking, though, everybody else on offense is made better by Rodgers, even Jones, who I have an extremely high opinion of, and arguably even the defense is better because of Rodgers and the offense getting ahead on the scoreboard and/or keeping them off the field. Nobody is more optimistic than I am - most of the time, but losing basically the best player ever to play the game would IMO drag the Packers way down - I stand by lower half record-wise or worse even with a lot of pretty good players still there.

Again... How do you explain the Bears at 8-8 last year. Their roster is vastly inferior to ours, with a shitty QB.

The Packers with a capable starting QB are still a 10 win team.

[Upnorth]

Blake Bortles is mediocre ? )

Thats if he maximizes his upsude

[Zool]

Blake Bortles is mediocre ? )

I’m trying to be more kind. He sucks.

[run pMc]

What is the market value for a future HOF, previous season MVP QB? They are so rare and valuable you just don't give them up.

Of the three offers,
I'd take Vegas first, because if you're getting a QB back in trade, and you should, it's one who's done it before in Carr. He makes the occasional dumb play, but I think he's better than many give him credit for, and he's played on some terrible Raider teams.
As others mentioned, Carr also has some trade value, and he could keep the team afloat in a system that is pretty QB friendly. SF has won games with worse QBs. He might be able to keep his former WR1 from Fresno State around in G&G with an extension.
It would also be awesome to see how long before Rodgers and Gruden have some kind of personality conflict. Finally, I'm not sure they'd get very far in that division with Mahomes at the top and LAC improving. Unless KC falls off a cliff, everyone else is basically fighting for a WC spot.

Trading with Denver for the extra pick is appealing, but I'd almost prefer getting Bridgewater over Lock as a QB in trade. Tim Patrick is a bit underrated, but GB has a bunch of WRs and I'm not sure where he fits.

Re: Tua, if he had fallen to 26 we'd probably be very excited about him, but I have serious questions about him. Either way I expect he answers them this season. Also, the media circus around QB competition could be a mess... not that the current situation isn't. Maybe if they threw in a good defensive player, but the LV offer still looks best to me.

[texaspackerbacker]

Again... How do you explain the Bears at 8-8 last year. Their roster is vastly inferior to ours, with a shitty QB.

The Packers with a capable starting QB are still a 10 win team.

Who says their roster is "vastly inferior" to ours? (of course, the Bears still suck, and I'm a little uncomfortable defending them at all hahahaha, but .....)

Khalil Mack, Akeem Hicks, Roquan Smith, Eddie Jackson, Goldman, Trevathan, borderline decent Corners, that amounts to a high quality defense. And on offense, Allen Robinson is damn good - who knows how good if he had somebody like Rodgers throwing to him. Their O Line seems like crap, but what do I always say? O Line ain't that big a deal anyway. If they had stuck with Trubisky at QB, they might have had a better record yet. What were they, 3-1 when they dumped him?

[sharpe1027]

Regarding the value of Carr vs. the extra Denver first rounder. If Carr were to be actively traded they would get a first round pick for him? I'm thinking no, and therefore, it's a worse deal.

[run pMc]

Regarding the value of Carr vs. the extra Denver first rounder. If Carr were to be actively traded they would get a first round pick for him? I'm thinking no, and therefore, it's a worse deal.

True. I don't know they could get a R1 for him. However, Carr could start right away and buy Jordan Love more time to develop, and be a hedge against the chance he never does. Would also give GB time to look for that eventual successor in that case. I'm not convinced Lock is that QB, although he could turn into an ok backup. I guess if Love and Lock were the QBs on the roster and neither worked out they'd likely have to package their two R1 picks to move inside the top 5 to take a QB (assuming they didn't land there anyway). It really depends on if you want the extra pick with a greater risk of going 4-12 for a year or more, or maybe being a middling/dark horse contender.

Having the extra picks is definitely nice but there's no guarantee they will pan out.