Which Trade Package?

[sharpe1027]

The way I look at it none of the trade QBs give them much of a chance to win it all. MAYBE, they could win it all with Carr and I don't disagree he's the best chance. Realistically, though, it's going probably go be Love or someone else. Thus, I don't put much value on any of the QBs being offered in this poll.

[bobblehead]

Anyone saying we have our QBs right now is talking foolishly. Bortles is trash. He's a backup QB in this league at this point. Love has barely stepped on an NFL field. If you think those two are the QBs for the next couple years, you are delusional.

I don't like any of the QBs in those deals, but I'd be willing to take a chance on Carr in MLFs offense. I can't imagine anyone will give up 3 first round picks for Rodgers...I think getting 2 is possible. If someone does offer 3 and a capable player, I would think you would have to jump at it if Rodgers appears to be willing to burn every bridge on his way out of town.

Bortles took an NFL team to a championship game. He is competent. He was a #3 overall pick. Rodgers? No. Trash? Also no. I would say its just as delusional (or biased) to say Love ISN'T going to be good. I say we have 2 QBs on the roster right now. One a 1st round pick with a season of development and the other a veteran backup who has taken a team to a championship game. To say that opinion is delusional...well, I would say that is someone who is a bit upset that we might lose Rodgers.

[bobblehead]

I'm baffled at all the Carr love when combined with the Bortles hate. Very similar QBs. Can run just enough. Good at managing short throws. Get rid of the ball quick. I really don't see a difference except the Raiders stuck with Carr while he can't cut it, but the Jaguars lost too many defenders and went full rebuild.

[King Friday]

Bortles took an NFL team to a championship game. He is competent. He was a #3 overall pick. Rodgers? No. Trash? Also no. I would say its just as delusional (or biased) to say Love ISN'T going to be good. I say we have 2 QBs on the roster right now. One a 1st round pick with a season of development and the other a veteran backup who has taken a team to a championship game. To say that opinion is delusional...well, I would say that is someone who is a bit upset that we might lose Rodgers.

Bortles didn't take a team anywhere. He is a QB in the era of offense who can't even complete 60% of his passes. His team got to the playoffs once because of a miraculous defensive effort. In the playoffs, Bortles threw only 3 TDs in 3 games.

Bortles is garbage.

[King Friday]

I'm baffled at all the Carr love when combined with the Bortles hate. Very similar QBs.

WTF are you smoking. I don't love Carr, but the guy routinely puts up 95+ QB ratings and throws a much higher completion percentage with fewer INTs. Bortles barely gets over 80.

Carr is a competent NFL QB. As I said before, Bortles is garbage

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't hate Bortles or love Carr, but Carr is head and shoulders above Bortles. Bortles had one good year (where he still threw 18 interceptions). His career completion percentage 59.3% and he has a 103-75 career TD-int rate. His best passer rating was 88.2. Carr has made the Pro Bowl three times (none for Bortles). His passer rating has been above 100 twice. His career passer rating is 82.1. He has a 170-71 TD-int rate.

[RashanGary]

Carr is a good player. Underrated. One of the most underrated QBs in football. You can win with him.

[Joemailman]

I don't hate Bortles or love Carr, but Carr is head and shoulders above Bortles. Bortles had one good year (where he still threw 18 interceptions). His career completion percentage 59.3% and he has a 103-75 career TD-int rate. His best passer rating was 88.2. Carr has made the Pro Bowl three times (none for Bortles). His passer rating has been above 100 twice. His career passer rating is 82.1. He has a 170-71 TD-int rate.

92.1. Carr's only mediocre season was 2017 when he was coming back from a broken leg suffered late in 2016. If he can have 2 straight 100+ passer rating seasons playing for Gruden, he could certainly do that for LaFleur.

[Spaulding]

Carr is a good player. Underrated. One of the most underrated QBs in football. You can win with him.

I voted for trading with Raiders as I absolutely agree that Carr is underrated. Besides the 2023 2nd rounder is equal to the 2024 1st rounder mostly likely and possible even worth more as I think the Broncos with Rodgers will win quite a few more games than the Raiders with Rodgers. Thus the selection in each of those rounds would correspondingly be higher as well if that holds true.

Bottom line, if Love doesn't pan out or takes longer to development, Carr provides more upside this year and possibly next than Lock would and is quite a bit better than Bortles who is damaged goods and more of a game manager at this point. Or if Love does pan out then you roll with him and Bortles and deal Carr who is under contract for a modest salary and would have far higher trade value than Lock as well.

[MadtownPacker]

Fuck, I think I have made my support for Fresno St players clear so this would be dream come true. For those worried about stop in offense production, Carr and Adams are a very proven combo. I doubt Davante would even miss the finger-pointing and eyerolls. Shit, good two-shoe like Carr may even elevate the locker room with his optimistic character. Sure it is a contrast from captain dooshbag.

Then we can see how the crybaby does when he isn’t in Green Bay.

[George Cumby]

I've always liked Carr but have been puzzled by Gruden's apparent dissatisfaction with him.

[Joemailman]

I've always liked Carr but have been puzzled by Gruden's apparent dissatisfaction with him.

Gruden is always dissatisfied with his QB's.

[Zool]

Gruden is always dissatisfied with his QB's.

But, I've been told over and over that he's the QB whisperer. ESPN wouldn't lie to me, would they?

[Joemailman]

But, I've been told over and over that he's the QB whisperer. ESPN wouldn't lie to me, would they?

Gruden won a Super Bowl with the NFL's #1 defense he inherited from Tony Dungy. Since then in 9 seasons he is 64-80 and 0-2 in the playoffs. His ability to get people to overestimate him is quite remarkable.

[George Cumby]

Gruden won a Super Bowl with the NFL's #1 defense he inherited from Tony Dungy. Since then in 9 seasons he is 64-80 and 0-2 in the playoffs. His ability to get people to overestimate him is quite remarkable.

Not only that, but against his former team, whose offense he authored and knew inside and out.