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  • #46
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    That rule doesn't apply. I think Rodgers gets a year towards his contract if he shows up by week 10 of the regular season just like Leveon Bell when he was tagged. That rule is for rookies and undrafted FA I would guess, but have no real knowledge of it. Rodgers doesn't need "accrued years" at this point.
    I think the accrual really only matters for early career/contract players to establish whether they are restricted free agents. After year four, it shouldn't matter.

    What matters for Rodgers is whether he gets credit for a year per his contract. Week 10 isn't the right answer either as that's for franchise tagged players. It's probably 6-8 weeks.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
      I think the accrual really only matters for early career/contract players to establish whether they are restricted free agents. After year four, it shouldn't matter.

      What matters for Rodgers is whether he gets credit for a year per his contract. Week 10 isn't the right answer either as that's for franchise tagged players. It's probably 6-8 weeks.
      I wonder what he needs to do to collect his full or nearly full paycheck and not have to pay back signing bonus. That would give us a timeline for resolution.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #48
        Double post

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        • #49
          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
          I wonder what he needs to do to collect his full or nearly full paycheck and not have to pay back signing bonus. That would give us a timeline for resolution.
          He'll have a healthy fine if he skips training camp. As far as the salary, I think it's by game week, so it's a matter of how much be wants to leave in the table. Going beyond 6 or so weeks risks not counting as a year on his contract.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
            He'll have a healthy fine if he skips training camp. As far as the salary, I think it's by game week, so it's a matter of how much be wants to leave in the table. Going beyond 6 or so weeks risks not counting as a year on his contract.

            A. Rodgers shows up for TC and this isn't a big deal but rodgers has tail between legs

            B. Rodgers gets a new deal and then shows up. Packers cave

            Or

            C. Rodgers shows up when the games count, ruins the season and now he gets traded next offseason. No one caves.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #51
              Murphy's comment about Rodgers being considered complicated tells me C is a real option. They're not gonna mortgage the future on an almost 40 year old quarterback who's under contract for 3 years. Rodgers demands might be too much and this blows up. In which case, we get to see Love throw for 4,000 yards and a 28 touchdowns in a 6-11 losing season. Oh well. A new DT next draft and all is good.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #52
                If it all blows up, I support what Rodgers tried to do and his fight against the American business way. And I support the Packers for not caving and sticking with their win under the salary cap winning formula. If rodgers gets a new deal we’re probably not winning any Owls anyway because of the salary cap implication. Rodgers just made it so hostile that moving on may be the only option.

                In hindsight, we shoulda taken the Stafford deal. I highly doubt anything close will be available going forward.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  He can miss however much time he wants that still allows him to collect his pay check. That is in his power and screws the team over big. That’s part of the rules too. If the team can use every rule and contract detail to their advantage, the player can to. Rodgers is proving two can play the same game and treat it as just a business.
                  Is Rodgers really hurting the team all that much? Does anybody seriously think the monetary penalties he faces mean anything to him?
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                    Is Rodgers really hurting the team all that much? Does anybody seriously think the monetary penalties he faces mean anything to him?
                    If Rodgers doesn't show up until the games count that messes up the offense big with no training camp practice. Absolutely that's a tool in his toolbox to get the new deal he wants
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • #55
                      About $2million in fines for missing all of camp. I think that stings even for Rodgers.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                        If Rodgers doesn't show up until the games count that messes up the offense big with no training camp practice. Absolutely that's a tool in his toolbox to get the new deal he wants
                        I would expect him to stop just short of that. The team should be well prepared with or without him, and it shouldn't take him any more time to get up to speed than it takes between one week's game and the next. Rodgers' net worth supposedly is $120 million. His salary and roster bonus for this year is well over $20 million. So I doubt $2 million hits him all that hard, and even if he's not primarily motivated by more money, he undoubtedly will have his income increased by well over the $2 million figure.
                        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                        • #57
                          It doesn’t matter how long his bitch ass plays he will never have half the rings Brady does.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                            Very True, and some people actually criticize him for that - Rodgers I mean, of course they criticize Brady.
                            I call it a character flaw for a reason. You can be driven to greatness and still be a horrible human being by the same trait. Brady, Jordan, and many others are incredible dicks in every day life....but its that same behavior that drives them to obsess to greatness.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                              He can miss however much time he wants that still allows him to collect his pay check. That is in his power and screws the team over big. That’s part of the rules too. If the team can use every rule and contract detail to their advantage, the player can to. Rodgers is proving two can play the same game and treat it as just a business.
                              Agreed. If he sits to week 10 and shows up, he is within his rights. He won't get paid for week 1-10 though. And the team can have him on the bench for weeks 11 on. Then we can do it again next year. As I said, he has options, as does the team. Who wants to be the bigger asshole? And honestly people will differ on which side is being unreasonable.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                                I think the accrual really only matters for early career/contract players to establish whether they are restricted free agents. After year four, it shouldn't matter.

                                What matters for Rodgers is whether he gets credit for a year per his contract. Week 10 isn't the right answer either as that's for franchise tagged players. It's probably 6-8 weeks.
                                good point. I'm not sure now that you mention it. I used the week 10 as I've heard it as the timeframe a player has to show up by to get credit. I guess technically Rodgers contract might state the years and he doesn't have to show up at all...but I'm positive they don't have to pay him then. And he still would have 2 more years. And they COULD go after the signing bonus (how successful is anyones guess)
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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