Grading the 2018 Packers Draft

[Tony Oday]

MVS will be a top 10 WR this year.

[call_me_ishmael]

MVS will have provided 4 years of production and then return a 4th-ish round comp pick. To get that from a 5th rd pick is outstanding. He'd have been worth a 2nd round pick, probably. Still a sub-par draft, but don't talk shit on MVS.

LMAO he ain't returning a 4th round comp pick. The best center in the NFL did that, not a 3rd or 4th receiver. THat said, it doesn't really matter, we can agree to disagree. MVS is just a guy in my book. A fast guy, but there are lots of guys that are fast out there.

I see Tony's drunk again lol

All that said I hope I'm wrong and the Packers dominate.

[RashanGary]

Jaire is better than an average starter
MVS is a little less than a starter

They average each other out and make 2 quality picks
The STs is a slight bump


Gutes probable worst draft wasn’t that bad. Thompson had a couple stinkers.

[run pMc]

MVS won't be a top 10 WR this year, and he won't net a R4 if he leaves. Not unless he suddenly turns into Randy Moss, which I'd estimate is about 0.01% likely.
I could see him having a good season and getting in the 600-800 yard range again, and attracting some attention in FA (especially given the GB cap situation, and the cap should go up) with GB getting something as a comp pick, but I'd think it would be closer to a R6 pick.

Most WRs don't have long careers. MVS isn't a superstar but he's a good "supporting cast" player and is a proven deep threat defenses have to respect. That, plus the way MLF uses play action, makes the rest of the offense more effective. He was a good pick by Gute. Jaire and he aside, the rest were underwhelming and overall Gute's 2018 draft was pretty meh.

Do you count getting the 2019 R1 as part of the 2018 draft? If you do, it supports an argument for a C or C+ grade, but 3 years in I wouldn't call this a "solid B" grade draft. You need a 3rd starter (Scott/Bradley aside) from this group, and I don't see one.

[Tony Oday]

MVS will have 1,100 yards 60 catches and 8 TDs

[RashanGary]

I think Lazard and MVS will share the #2 role. I’m very high on Lazard. He’s a tough, smart, skilled player. Tonyan too. I expect MVS to have about 750 yards because he’s splitting catches with so many guys and we’re a running team. But he should be near the top of the league in big catches again.

[Joemailman]

I think it will be tough for any WR's not named Adams to get more than 700 yards. MVS, Lazard, Rodgers and Funchess (or ESB) will be splitting the 2nd and 3rd WR reps. Last year Packers WR's combined for about 2600 snaps. 774 went to Adams in 14 games. That comes out to 2.4 WR's per snap. Using that as a basis, Adams would get about 880 snaps if he plays in 16 games (admittedly a big if). That would leave about 1720 snaps among the rest of the receivers. Even if they all went to the 2,3 and 4 receivers, that comes out to an average of 570 snaps per receiver, or about 36 snaps per game. That is far fewer than the 793 snaps at 50 per game that MVS had last year. Unless one guy establishes himself as the clear #2, it's unlikely any of those guys will match, much less exceed what MVS did last year.

[Bretsky]

I think Lazard and MVS will share the #2 role. I’m very high on Lazard. He’s a tough, smart, skilled player. Tonyan too. I expect MVS to have about 750 yards because he’s splitting catches with so many guys and we’re a running team. But he should be near the top of the league in big catches again.

The Lizard is that guy you always cheer for. Outstanding person; very media and fan friendly. Try hard guy. The Underdog. Whitewater Jesus with way more talent. But dude is not a 2. Joe is right in his assertion; but the reason is we don't have a WR 2 on our roster

[Upnorth]

MVS will have 1,100 yards 60 catches and 8 TDs

Depending on injury the last 2 numbers are possible. I think if his usage goes up his ypc goes down

[texaspackerbacker]

When you've got a guy who is 6'5", is fast enough get open deep fairly often, is fairly surehanded, blocks as good as most TEs, and apparently is not an attitude problem, how is that guy not a quality #2 receiver? For that matter, how is somebody who is 6'4" with 4.37 speed that actually shows on the football field, is also a good blocker and a hard worker, how is that guy not a quality #3 with a fair chance to suddenly stop with the drops and become top 10 WR?

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Lizard is that guy you always cheer for. Outstanding person; very media and fan friendly. Try hard guy. The Underdog. Whitewater Jesus with way more talent. But dude is not a 2. Joe is right in his assertion; but the reason is we don't have a WR 2 on our roster

Lazard is a legit #2 in this offense.

[RashanGary]

Lazard is a legit #2 in this offense.

I agree. Judging him after a groin injury is like judging Adams when he had the ankle. Lizard is gonna break out.

[Jaire]

edit: wrong draft year. Sorry Grading the draft after 2 months:

I have to give it a C. The picks are solid. It's the strategy the last two years that really really bothers me. And I can't shake it. They should have taken Jenkins or Barmore with the first pick. You just don't get those quality of line prospects often when you pick low. Their biggest problem against TB was in the trenches. That's where they lost the NFCCG two years in a row now. Gute was too focused on CB in the run up (he went to every top cb predraft); there were good cbs on day 2 and Stokes might have lasted to their second pick. In any case Barmore & Jenkins just seem the better pick and bigger need. I don't like the position -- center & Rb -- in round two. In the long term this is going to hurt imo.

On the whole, Gute has picked above average. Just not happy with the day 1-2 strategy.

[Upnorth]

Grading the draft after 2 months:

I have to give it a C. The picks are solid. It's the strategy the last two years that really really bothers me. And I can't shake it. They should have taken Jenkins or Barmore with the first pick. You just don't get those quality of line prospects often when you pick low. Their biggest problem against TB was in the trenches. That's where they lost the NFCCG two years in a row now. Gute was too focused on CB in the run up (he went to every top cb predraft); there were good cbs on day 2 and Stokes might have lasted to their second pick. In any case Barmore & Jenkins just seem the better pick and bigger need. I don't like the position -- center & Rb -- in round two. In the long term this is going to hurt imo.

On the whole, Gute has picked above average. Just not happy with the day 1-2 strategy.

No way 31 other teams between pick 1 and 2 pass on stokes. Too much upside. 2nd is early for a centre but I think centre is of nassuve importance in Lafluer mind. Re:barmore there was a lot of red ink about to this draft. Best of the worst position group is a hard rd 1 sell when kings issues were so front of mind

[Jaire]

As to the 2018 draft, sorry again.

I kinda have to count it as Savage, MVS, and Jaire. I expect both Savage and MVS to improve. So it's a B+ / A-