Official Jordan Love Bandwagon Thread:

[run pMc]

And if you're drafting a pro-ready QB, you're probably a horrible team drafting in the top 5.

[texaspackerbacker]

Murphy said he’s not sure if you can win with a star QB at a full market contract. He said Brady was always below full market and Mahommes won on his rookie deal.

We’ve all talked about this. When 20% of your cap is eaten up by one player it’s hard to win championships because it’s hard to field a team around that guy.

Murphy can eat shit and die. Rodgers is damn close right now to full market value and the Packers are a loaded team. Some whine about cap problems next season, etc., but it is damn near a lock that the increase in the cap along with a few contract modifications will easily cure that.

[Bretsky]

And if you only draft a QB if he's ready to play, then you would never draft a guy like Rodgers.

Don't think anybody embraced this concept 15 years ago. Cap was different as were the times

Patrick Mahommes
Russell Wilson

Two modern day examples

[Bretsky]

And if you're drafting a pro-ready QB, you're probably a horrible team drafting in the top 5.

Mahommes and Wilson would be modern day examples.

Not sure how Fields will turn out but they traded up to get him and were not a terrible team

[smuggler]

Mahomes did end up starting in his rookie season, but only one game.

[texaspackerbacker]

Russell Wilson in the third round was more luck than anything else when he turned out to be "NFL-ready". Ditto that to some extent with Mahomes, who of course, was drafted after a couple other seemingly more polished QBs. The best example of all, though, was overlooked: Ol' Jerry Jones picking up Dak Prescott in the 4th after a lot of people expected him to use a first round pick on a QB.

Call it drafting skill or good or bad luck in each of these cases as well as in the many busts, it is far from an exact science to snag a successful pro QB based on what he did in college.

Bottom line, it was monumentally STUPID to move up in the first round to draft Love - for reasons way beyond the most obvious one, still having the GOAT who will still be good for many more years.

[smuggler]

I don't know about that tex. Time will tell. In order for the Packers to get a similar quality QB in this years' draft, they'd have had to move up all the way to 11 to draft Fields. Who knows when a QB of Love's caliber will be available in '22 or '23. It kind of makes me doubt your ability to evaluate players or the NFL landscape at all, honestly, when you call drafting Love stupid...

[Bretsky]

I don't know about that tex. Time will tell. In order for the Packers to get a similar quality QB in this years' draft, they'd have had to move up all the way to 11 to draft Fields. Who knows when a QB of Love's caliber will be available in '22 or '23. It kind of makes me doubt your ability to evaluate players or the NFL landscape at all, honestly, when you call drafting Love stupid...

Are you saying Love will be better than Mac Jones ?

Why are you consdidering Love equal to Fields as a prospect ?

[Bretsky]

I don't know about that tex. Time will tell. In order for the Packers to get a similar quality QB in this years' draft, they'd have had to move up all the way to 11 to draft Fields. Who knows when a QB of Love's caliber will be available in '22 or '23. It kind of makes me doubt your ability to evaluate players or the NFL landscape at all, honestly, when you call drafting Love stupid...

I'd add this; there are tons of people/announcers/former GM's.....who have questioned the timing and what we gave up to draft Jordan Love. They are not all stupid

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't know about that tex. Time will tell. In order for the Packers to get a similar quality QB in this years' draft, they'd have had to move up all the way to 11 to draft Fields. Who knows when a QB of Love's caliber will be available in '22 or '23. It kind of makes me doubt your ability to evaluate players or the NFL landscape at all, honestly, when you call drafting Love stupid...

Who says we would even need or want a "similar quality QB in this years' draft"? That's the whole point. Boyle, Benkert, Bortles, or any other grade B QB would be perfectly good enough to hold the Packers proverbial clipboard. 3 or 4 years from now, you start shopping around for 3rd or 4th rounders to see if you can get lucky. And if none of that bunch is good enough when Rodgers finally does retire - ideally 5 years plus from now, then if the rest of the team is still viable, you do like the Rams and get the 2027 or so equivalent of Stafford.

How does Love compare to Fields (who I don't particularly like and who will likely flounder because of the team he is on) or Jones (who I don't know much about but will likely seem better than he is because of the team he is on)? Who knows/who cares? I expect that whatever Love becomes, it will be for some other team.

As for saying it was STUPID to draft Love in the first round much less move up to do so, I say that AGAIN primarily for two reasons: First and foremost, because Rodgers, I firmly believe, even 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or more years from now will still be better - a lot better - than the best we could ever hope Love turns into, and secondly, because you have about as good a chance of grabbing a promising 2nd, 3rd, or 4th rounder developing into a Wilson or Prescott level star than you do with a high first round pick who might very well be another Goff or Carr or Trubisky.

[smuggler]

I'd add this; there are tons of people/announcers/former GM's.....who have questioned the timing and what we gave up to draft Jordan Love. They are not all stupid

A lot of them are.

[Sparkey]

8 years ?

Rodgers will be lucky to even come close to repeating last year.

[Sparkey]

8 years ?

Rodgers will be lucky to even come close to repeating last year.

[Teamcheez1]

I can’t stop laughing. Rodgers will be lucky to still be playing 3 years from now.

[Bretsky]

8 years ?

Rodgers will be lucky to even come close to repeating last year.

I would not say 8 years. But 3 to 5 might be practical if he takes care of himself like Brady. He has a rocket arm, is in great shape, and is mobile so he has those things working for him.