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  • #31
    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    Wanting to spend 27 million per year in other ways doesn’t equate to calling someone an ass hole. Where do you come up with this stuff?
    Just laughing at the ways you guys turn on players when their future doesn't involve green bay.

    Rodgers- that guy is a passive aggressive douchebag who can rot

    Adams-. Too expensive, not worth the money, too old

    It's like calling your 115 young girlfriend a fat ass after she dumps you

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    • #32
      One thing with just letting Adams leave is the fact that we have no one else ready to step up to be a new #1. As I would argue that we don't even have a decent #2 right now

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      • #33
        Originally posted by red View Post
        One thing with just letting Adams leave is the fact that we have no one else ready to step up to be a new #1. As I would argue that we don't even have a decent #2 right now
        One thing about paying him 27 million per season is we’d definitely not have a 2 or a 3 or a #1 TE. Everything is a give and take.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by red View Post
          Macaffee thinks he could be traded in a week if Rodgers doesnt report
          Why? If there's a chance they're going to have to go with Love this year, why would they trade away his best receiver?
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            Why? If there's a chance they're going to have to go with Love this year, why would they trade away his best receiver?
            to get trade value for a player you have no intension of keeping

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            • #36
              It seems to be the Packers way to lowball even high quality players and to be prepared to let them go. This may very well be what Rodgers was talking about - not liking the way the team treats players. The thing is, though, that seems to work in terms of sustained success. We may well lose Adams that way, like we lost Jordy Nelson and probably others over the years. I would say, the reason this formula for success worked was primarily because we had back to back two of the greatest QBs in NFL history.

              Adams is no "asshole"; He's more like a possible victim - the cost of doing business and keeping on winning. Rodgers, the highly intelligent guy we all know he is, should realize that and exactly why the team has done things the way they have.

              Team leadership, though, should realize what has made the Packers great for so long. Drafting Love/a first round QB at all when they did was a departure from that. It was NOT merely stumbling into a bargain like when we got Rodgers. It was subordinating other positions of need, not to mention alienating the primary asset they had - Rodgers.

              Scenario 1 (preferred): Rodgers is extended and stays long term, Adams accepts a slight lowball deal and stays several added years. Scenario 2: (IMO the most likely) Rodgers stays long term, Adams takes the money and goes elsewhere. Scenario 3: (unlikely to me, realistic to some) Rodgers is gone after this season or even before this season, Adams says no to a lowball and goes elsewhere.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                One thing about paying him 27 million per season is we’d definitely not have a 2 or a 3 or a #1 TE. Everything is a give and take.
                you guys do understand that just because a player counts "27 million" a year against the cap, doesn't mean that he actually takes up 27 million against the cap every single year

                in fact, hopkins only counts 27 million against the cap 1 season.

                that 2 year 54 million contract was actually a 2 year extension on to an existing 3 year deal

                his cap numbers were 7 million last year, the year he signed the extension
                12.5 million this year
                25 million next year
                27.2 in 2023
                and 22.6 million in 2024

                the team can cut him after the 2022 season and save cap space and never pay him that 50 million in new money

                all he really got that was real money was a 27.5 million dollar signing bonus spread over 5 years

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                  It seems to be the Packers way to lowball even high quality players and to be prepared to let them go. This may very well be what Rodgers was talking about - not liking the way the team treats players. The thing is, though, that seems to work in terms of sustained success. We may well lose Adams that way, like we lost Jordy Nelson and probably others over the years. I would say, the reason this formula for success worked was primarily because we had back to back two of the greatest QBs in NFL history.

                  my biggest gripe with this approach is that we just let them walk at the end

                  in my mind it would be better to trade them a year earlier for picks if you know you're letting the guy go

                  maybe if its a 4th rounder or later it wouldn't be worth trading him, but if its a high pick, i'd like to see it happen

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                  • #39
                    I love all the people on here who want to throw $100M+ at a soon to be 30 year old WR. I like Adams. He's a great player and has been a credit to the franchise. However, I can also recognize that paying huge contracts to guys on the wrong side of 30 normally doesn't pay off.

                    He's not going to be traded prior to the season. Lay off the peyote kids. The NFL isn't like your Madden franchise. Trading Adams right now would be very difficult. Few teams have a ton of cap space remaining after signing rookies. Your trading partner has to be someone the player is willing to sign with long term or you ain't getting a decent return. Nearly every team watches guys walk each year. That's part of the cap system.
                    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                      I’d rather keep Tonyan, Lazard and MVS. I think you could get all three for about the price of Adams.

                      And while we’re on it. This year is our window. I’d be fine moving onto Love after this year and doing a rebuild.
                      LMAO, you've got to be kidding me. You'd rather keep three guys who are basically 4-8M a year veterans at the most over one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL? LMAO!!!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                        I’d rather keep Tonyan, Lazard and MVS. I think you could get all three for about the price of Adams.

                        And while we’re on it. This year is our window. I’d be fine moving onto Love after this year and doing a rebuild.
                        As Cris Carter would often say...........


                        COME ON MAN
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #42
                          No, RG got that right. 3 or 4 years from now those 3 will each be better than Adams. Of course, if Rodgers is still around and we can sign Davante with a lowball deal, then we can keep all of them. Arguably, all of them, even Adams, are made great by Aaron Rodgers.
                          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                          • #43
                            I'd rather use the money to pay someone like Jaire, who is likely to remain an elite player at his position far longer than Adams.
                            It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                            • #44
                              So here's what the "all-in" crowd seems to expect:

                              - Highest paid QB in football going into his 40's
                              - Highest paid WR in football going into his 30's
                              - Highest paid LT in the league
                              - Top-5 paid DT in the league
                              - Top-10 paid RB in the league
                              - Top-10 paid OLB in the league

                              ^^^And somehow still have enough money to pay Jaire who might end up requiring making him the top paid corner in football. This was always going to be a possibility or even likelihood given the cap situation, and yet all I see from Packers Twitter and simpleton casual fans are all caps complaints and memes about how the organization has **** everything up. Will the "all in" crowd actually admit that the strategy was a failure if we don't end this 3-year run with a Super Bowl? Of course not. Just pivot to some other dumb argument where you expect to consistently field the most talented roster in football while completely ignoring the existence of this thing called the "salary cap"...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                                No, RG got that right. 3 or 4 years from now those 3 will each be better than Adams. Of course, if Rodgers is still around and we can sign Davante with a lowball deal, then we can keep all of them. Arguably, all of them, even Adams, are made great by Aaron Rodgers.
                                It had been a while but here is another one of your absolutely stupid posts.
                                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                                -Tim Harmston

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