Davante will be gone now too...

[Harlan Huckleby]

No...they certainly are contracts. However, the system is set up to favor the teams. The Packers are hardly the only team that takes advantage of this. All 32 do.

Very true that contracts themselves are shitty to many players.

On unrelated rant: the salary cap is lousy. It is not structured primarily for competitiveness, it's to guarantee great profitability to every franchise. There is no reason to cap all salaries. They could exempt salaries od players who have been on the team for ~ 5 years. Then you wouldn't have the massive turnover after the first contract. THe NFL is structured now to run on cheaper young guys. The problem is the fans have little attachment to the "home" players. It sucks for fans, IMO.

[Harlan Huckleby]

no, i mean how teams can cut a player whenever they want in reality

right, I agree on how one-sided NFL contracts are.

[texaspackerbacker]

No problem giving him top ten, even top five money. I just wouldn't want to give him top 1 or 2 money long term - which he very well could get (and likely will if Rodgers isn't around past this season) from somebody else.

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Very true that contracts themselves are shitty to many players.

On unrelated rant: the salary cap is lousy. It is not structured primarily for competitiveness, it's to guarantee great profitability to every franchise. There is no reason to cap all salaries. They could exempt salaries od players who have been on the team for ~ 5 years. Then you wouldn't have the massive turnover after the first contract. THe NFL is structured now to run on cheaper young guys. The problem is the fans have little attachment to the "home" players. It sucks for fans, IMO.

right, I agree on how one-sided NFL contracts are.

players union is just pathetic imo

[King Friday]

no, i mean how teams can cut a player whenever they want in reality

i would like to know if any other team does the thing that the packers do about paying out signing bonuses and roster bonuses over the course of the year. i always thought that was up from money, due at signing, or due on all on a certain date

I would bet that most NFL teams operate this way on a majority of contracts...and again, if that is something a player doesn't want, then that is on his agent to negotiate.

[ThunderDan]

no, i mean how teams can cut a player whenever they want in reality

i would like to know if any other team does the thing that the packers do about paying out signing bonuses and roster bonuses over the course of the year. i always thought that was up from money, due at signing, or due on all on a certain date

The NFL players (all 3 of them) that I have dealt with have specific dates and times when bonuses get paid out in the contract.

These exact reasons are why players are demanding more guaranteed, upfront money. If they don't, they are at the mercy of the team if their play regresses even a little bit.

[HarveyWallbangers]

no, i mean how teams can cut a player whenever they want in reality

That all depends on the structure of the contract. They can't get out of some contracts too early. The fact that players get more money up front nowadays helps balance the fact that teams can cut players. Nowadays, a player can sign a 5 year contract with a lot of upfront money and then his play can deteriorate (or the player can get injured) soon after and it will have been an unfair contract for the team. It kind of cuts both ways nowadays.

[texaspackerbacker]

If Adams is gone after this year, we can still win it all if Rodgers is there. If Rodgers is gone, though, with or without Adams, we lose. That's the bottom line of all of this.

[Upnorth]

If Adams is gone after this year, we can still win it all if Rodgers is there. If Rodgers is gone, though, with or without Adams, we lose. That's the bottom line of all of this.

I remember reading this in 2008. Slightly different name but other than that...

[texaspackerbacker]

You didn't read it from me.

[TateM30]

As long as the NFL has a salary cap, this stuff will pop up. It’s part of the game. If money wasn’t such a factor I’m sure Green Bay wants to keep everyone.

sure but i think a big issue is overly backing players over the best case scenario for teams. Teams are a million moving parts and welfare of thousands matter based off these individual players demands.