Studs and Duds, Futbol Team:

[RashanGary]

The problem with Bakh is he won’t be 100%

[run pMc]

Per Packers Wire:

Rodgers completed 27 of 31 passes from clean pockets, hit two “big time throws,” was 3-for-4 when throwing beyond 20 yards and scrambled twice for 17 yards.

So he was 0-4 and sacked 3 times on the other occasions (i.e., not-clean pockets). In other words, having decent OL blocking matters in the passing game.

What happens when Bahktiari starts at LT and Jenkins moves back to LG? They have to give less help blocking and Tonyan and the others can be fully utilized in MLF's scheme. If Bahktiari is truly JAG then he'd need as much help as Njiman or Jenkins does at LT.
OL matters.

[smuggler]

Is there any other PR poster with as bad of takes concerning the OL as tex?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Dud: the oline. That was garbage pass protection and run blocking. Just horrible. Against any kind of secondary it would have been a nightmare. I don't remember the last time I saw them this bad... Maybe 2006.

2nd half better

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, even if you keep telling your wife, year after year, that you are well hung, she knows better when you drop your drawers.

There are some things that don't come true simply through repetition.

Truth is truth until proven false hahahahaha - whichever truth you might be talking about.

Whiners and dumbasses (Cumby) as well as competent but misguided posters can uh, what was that line? keep saying it over and over? But that doesn't make it true. We have played good and beaten just about everybody over the past three seasons with or without Bakhtiari, and we have lost to a few teams even with him. The determining factor (obviously) is Aaron Rodgers winning game - and very rarely losing when he has a bad one.

Repetition that this obvious fact isn't true does not make it untrue. Does anybody have anything other than that stupid repetition to the contrary? What happened last Sunday - and so-o-o-o-o many other times? O Line play has ranged from mediocre to downright bad, and we won anyway. Are any of ya'all gonna dispute that?

[KYPack]

Your Bakhtiari is overrated bullshit is weak. It makes me doubt your overall football knowledge. You've been watching football a long time?

You haven't learned how to ID a marquee Olineman?

Why not?

See Fritz's comment and triple it for me.

[texaspackerbacker]

Per Packers Wire:


So he was 0-4 and sacked 3 times on the other occasions (i.e., not-clean pockets). In other words, having decent OL blocking matters in the passing game.

What happens when Bahktiari starts at LT and Jenkins moves back to LG? They have to give less help blocking and Tonyan and the others can be fully utilized in MLF's scheme. If Bahktiari is truly JAG then he'd need as much help as Njiman or Jenkins does at LT.
OL matters.

hahaha When is this "0-4 and sacked 3 times" you're talking about?

FWIW, I didn't say Bakhtiari is "JAG", just that he's overrated, and the position he plays is overrated in importance. Of the 32-7 we've gone the past three seasons, what part of that was Bakhtiari there, and what part not there? I'd check myself, except the burden of proof is on ya'all whiners who say I'm wrong.

smuggler, don't know, don't care .... oops, I guess I better say I don't know, and I don't care, so that North Korean shithead can understand.

[texaspackerbacker]

Your Bakhtiari is overrated bullshit is weak. It makes me doubt your overall football knowledge. You've been watching football a long time?

You haven't learned how to ID a marquee Olineman?

Why not?

See Fritz's comment and triple it for me.

Yet all you can do is whine and not point out any facts to the contrary.

What "ID a marquee Olineman"? I don't recall the question being asked, but Jerry Kramer was pretty good, and Forest Gregg too. I haven't really thought much about it regarding players from other teams, and I can't recall anybody that stands out more recently for the Packers. We've been looking and not finding since long before Mandarich. How is that relevant to anything?

[RashanGary]

We’ve eeked out some ugly wins. But we all should have known the OL was going to be a problem going into the season.

We’ve weathered the storm better than I expected. 6-1 is outstanding.

Bakh is on the verge of coming back. He is not going to be 100%. We’ll probably get about equal production from Bakh as weve gotten from Jenkins.

It’s inside where we should see the biggest improvements. Jenkins will be a monster upgrade at LG. And once Meyers comes back, Patrick will be a nice upgrade over Newman. Going forward we look to be much stronger inside than we have been so far.

[RashanGary]

Let’s hope Jaire comes back healthy too. That would be a big help to our defense.

We are not a contender right now. That’s just the simple and obvious reality that we’re lucky to be 6-1.

With some huge health luck (jaire, Bakh, Z) all coming back before seasons end and somehow staying mostly healthy otherwise, we have a shot.

It’s always easier to predict a team won’t win the super bowl because one of 32 teams wins and the odds are against every team. But we’re really not a contender right now. I don’t care about the 6-1 record. We’re just not there.

[Bretsky]

Let’s hope Jaire comes back healthy too. That would be a big help to our defense.

We are not a contender right now. That’s just the simple and obvious reality that we’re lucky to be 6-1.

I would agree with this but with that being said the national media generally considers us a contender. I think out 6 and 1 record shows how great of a Matty is doing as a HC and it helps to have superior QB play as well.

We can be a contender though; we just need a bunch of injured players back healthy

[HarveyWallbangers]

I would agree with this but with that being said the national media generally considers us a contender. I think out 6 and 1 record shows how great of a Matty is doing as a HC and it helps to have superior QB play as well.

We can be a contender though; we just need a bunch of injured players back healthy

Yep. If we were 6-1 with Bakh, Jaire, Big Z, Elgton, I would have said that we are contenders, but we need to stay healthy. Now, I'd say we are contenders, if we can get and stay healthy.

[Fritz]

One question I have - we all have - is whether the Packers can get to and win a SB without Dr. Z. Sure, Gary is playing better, but having the Smith Bros and Gary was a trump card for that defense.

I think that we all probably agree if Jaire cannot come back and play well in the playoffs, this team won't get far.

[RashanGary]

One question I have - we all have - is whether the Packers can get to and win a SB without Dr. Z. Sure, Gary is playing better, but having the Smith Bros and Gary was a trump card for that defense.

I think that we all probably agree if Jaire cannot come back and play well in the playoffs, this team won't get far.

If Z somehow comes back abd we have Z, P, Gary and Mercilus, damn!

[run pMc]

It's close, but I think getting Jaire back will be more important than getting Z back. They've been able to manufacture some pass rush moving Clark around and with Preston/Gary.
Getting both back would obviously be a big boost. I'm not optimistic about Z if it's anything beyond very very minor back surgery.