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[Anti-Polar Bear]

I’m in if Harlan’s in. Alas, Harlan ain’t ever in. Ole Madtown once offered Harlan free room, board and ticket just to show up. Yet, the dude turned down the offer.

It’s clear as day Harlan don’t want us to know that he’s Turkish and that his ancestors were Ottoman Turks.

[Fosco33]

All you darn degens - I’d have to hide all the cash and jewels. Lol

Not sure why we wouldn’t do something at one of the stadium bars and tickets for those able

[Harlan Huckleby]

I’m in if Harlan’s in. Alas, Harlan ain’t ever in. Ole Madtown once offered Harlan free room, board and ticket just to show up. Yet, the dude turned down the offer.

It’s clear as day Harlan don’t want us to know that he’s Turkish and that his ancestors were Ottoman Turks.

The reason I didn't go to that game is due to an incident in August 1975 involving one of these godforsaken devices.

[bobblehead]

The counties across the country with the greatest covid spread (cases per capita) correlate perfectly with low vaccination rates. There is no serious argument; vaccination reduces covid spread.

The anti-vaxxers have focused on narrowly-focused studies that show that people with breakthrough infections shed virus at rates similar to that of the vaccinated. Virus accumulates in the nasal passages (or wherever spread is initiated) at almost the same level.
THIS IS ONLY ONE FACTOR IN SPREAD. Vaccinated people are less likely to become infected. They are infectious for a shorter period.

The proof in the pudding is what is happening clinically in the real world. The virus spreads where vaccination is weak. You will NEVER hear an actual virologist or epidemiologist say that vaccination doesn't help spread. You have self-proclaimed experts "doing their own research" spreading harmful misinterpretations of cherry-picked science. Anti-vaxxers on the internet re-enforce each other and become more certain in their version of "science."

Since you brought this up I guess its fair game. Rachel Walensky herself has said that the vaccine does not inhibit spread. The CDC early on for some unknown reason decided NOT to track breakthrough cases so your assertion means basically nothing without data. England however tracks everything VERY closely and accurately and releases the data every week. A recent report shows the following:



The chart is from this report:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf

Go ahead. Read the data starting on page 13. People over the age of 29 are infected at an increasingly HIGHER rate if they are vaccinated (on a per 100k basis).

I am not trying to make this political at all, just correcting the record. Now I agree with you that the proof is in the pudding. The real world data, where it is kept is undeniable and Israel shows the same thing. Vaccinated people are being infected at a higher rate...as much as 2 to 1 in select age groups. They are also doing better...much better when considering the number infected, at avoiding hospitalization and/or death. Those are the facts and they are undeniable.

[bobblehead]

i'm not a buyer into the analysis that can be twisted inn so many ways. The players know the rules. Each team would like their multi million dollar players to be vaccinated, and if they aren't there are the repercussions. In realty a vaccinated player has more value than a non vaccinated player if talent is similar

This is very true based on the policies the NFL has set forth. Each player has to make decisions based on their own circumstances. Lazard knew the rules. It doesn't matter if we think they are absurd or not. He made his decision and I have no problem with it. I have always believed people should have the freedom to make choices and suffer the consequences (good and bad) based on them. Now if we want to discuss wether the rules make sense or not I guess we have to move it to FYI.

[Bretsky]

Life is about choices; Lazar chose how to make his bed, and now he can sit at home in it tonight while his teammates compete.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I was a good athlete in high school - not a shutdown corner recruited by Barry Alvarez - but decent. Problem was I had what you might call a "bad body." So going into my senior year I was going to train hard a be a stud. I lifted weights like a mother fucker, went on daily 10 mile runs, ate strict diet. I must say I cast quite a imposing figure walking onto the field that first day of football practice.

In the first drill, going through agility ropes I blew my knee out. I had a one minute season. As the assistant coach drove me to hospital I was balling my eyes out. It wasn't the pain, I couldn't believe all my work was for naught. The coach was a huge asshole and was clearly ashamed of my unmanly behavior.

Enter Dr. James McCain, orthopedic surgeon. I later learned (no kidding) his nickname was Dr. Pain McCain. He butchered my knee,
an infection lead to 2 month hospital stay. I wrestled in college with one good leg and one stiff leg. Late in life more orthopedic mishaps and 2 bad knees.

I was on crutches and frequent pain during that era. I told Mad I needed two seats to be comfortable. Don't remember what happened but it was too much trouble just to get a blow job from a mexican and meet some of his white boy gang. Shit, from 2010-2015 I was even more fucked up. Now I am feeling no pain to complain about, but still not super mobile.

[Harlan Huckleby]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

This article explains why contrarian claims are flawed.

It is not useful for an armchair scientist to look at specific studies and draw broad conclusions.

"Trust the science" means to trust the analysis/synthesis by scientists *in specific field* weighing all studies.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The reason I didn't go to that game is due to an incident in August 1975 involving one of these godforsaken devices.

Ah, now I understand why in my shutdown corner days, those yellow squared ropes were laid flat on the ground without the metal bed support depicted in the pic.

Sorry you had to go through that shit.

[RashanGary]

https://www.newscientist.com/article...re-vaccinated/
This article explains why contrarian claims are flawed.

It is not useful for an armchair scientist to look at specific studies and draw broad conclusions.

"Trust the science" means to trust the analysis/synthesis by scientists *in specific field* weighing all studies.

You know it all. You should make a website where you settle the science for everyone who’s digging in the data.

[Fritz]

And no MVS for tonight's game against AZ.

So conceivably there could be situations in which the Packers trot out Randall Cobb, Amari Rodgers, Encyclopedia (St.) Brown, and Malik Taylor.

Hope Rodgers is practicing his eye-rolls in the hotel mirror before they leave for the stadium.

[RashanGary]

Hope Rodgers is practicing his eye-rolls in the hotel mirror before they leave for the stadium.

[QBME]

nm

[Harlan Huckleby]

You know it all. You should make a website where you settle the science for everyone who’s digging in the data.

The people "digging in the data" are cherry-picking results that validate their feelings. I am the opposite of a know-it-all: I acknowledge the judgement of experts who understand the range of studies in their field. That's called believing in science.

[smuggler]

Actually you're believing in scientists, who are flawed people with veiled motivations and science itself does not have a rigid position in the matter. It is not a conclusion at all but a process from which people form conclusions.