How does Favre fit in Thompson's plan?

[Fosco33]

My take on Favre's role is just an opinion - something to chew on...

He's one of the top 3 QBs alltime and a NFL favorite around the country - he's god in WI.

You have a young QB behind him that has shown improvement in one year of seasoning w/ coaches/Brett.

While Brett didn't want to be the onfield coach or mentor last year, he still ended up being that guy. He hasn't really addressed this topic this year except saying that he still can play. Having Rodgers groom is fine for this team and in a sense the rebuilding years.

If Brett wants to return next year, then the topic of trading him becomes more relevant. At some point we need Rodgers to grow up quickly - we've seen basic improvement but he does need to take the reigns by the end of next year.

[MJZiggy]

if, if, if. BF said it won't happen. M3 said it won't happen. TT said it won't happen. why are we thinking it's gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. What team is going to trade anything of value for a guy that's been talking retirement for the last 3 years? He keeps saying IF he can play... maybe by next year, his feet get worse and he decides he doesn't want to put his body through it anymore. Great, you've traded a pick in the draft for a retirement statistic. It's NOT gonna happen.

[rbaloha1]

Not happen not the issue

It could happen.

Lets examine the merits of trading BF since every move the packers make is speculation.

Remove emotion and lets talk about what is best for the ENTIRE PACKER ORGANIZATION NOT JUST BF.

[swede]

I think Brett Favre is a really cool human being. He is exceptionally talented, possesses courage and a charming youthful enthusiasm that only now seems to be waning, and yet he is decidedly human in his flaws and shortcomings.

Given the state of the team I'd be pleased to let him play for another contending team if that is what he wanted to do.

Green Bay will need to move past Favre someday, and probably someday soon. It really wouldn't bother me if Favre decided to finish with another team or not. His legacy is with us. Even another Super Bowl ring with Carolina or somebody would be a mere footnote to the things he's accomplished in Green Bay. As Zig says, what does Brett want to do?

In my pipe dream he still stays around and leads the team to a championship in 2008, but it's taking a lot more green and gold bud in the bong to catch that vision.

[MJZiggy]

This isn't even about emotion. What idiot is gonna give up something significant to get a guy on the brink of retirement knowing that he will only be there for maybe a year? It took him 3 months to figure out he wanted to play at all this year. Why do you think that a guy who feels like he's walking on glass every morning and needs surgery is gonna commit to that much time?

[prsnfoto]

Trading Favre would not get past Harlan and Jones. That would have a huge impact on the bottom line and PR. As a business move, it would raise plenty of objections.

Its would be such a big thing that I wouldn't be surpirsed if it wasn't discussed, or if his future was a conversation topic, trading him was dismissed.

Harlan can say all he wants that the GM has final authority, but both Wolf and T2 have told stories of going to Harlan/Jones first before making the move.

Not to say it wouldn't be in our best interest, but I am not surprised it hasn't happened and I don't expect it will.

I agree max but if this team starts out 0-6 which will happen if they lose this week I think they move Brett. I don't think TT wanted him to begin with but it would've been a PR disaster, at that point they could spin it to Favre's advantage"Looking at the direction of this team we think it is in Brett's and our best interest to let him seek a championship elsewhere" I also think if he commits to 1-2 more seasons we could get a number 1 pick for him. Two teams I am watching that could be 3-3 with bad QB play by week 7 are dallas and TB I personally don't want Brett in a cowboy uni but HE deserves this opportunity this team and its management sucks and let him down.

[prsnfoto]

This isn't even about emotion. What idiot is gonna give up something significant to get a guy on the brink of retirement knowing that he will only be there for maybe a year? It took him 3 months to figure out he wanted to play at all this year. Why do you think that a guy who feels like he's walking on glass every morning and needs surgery is gonna commit to that much time?

It took him 3 months because he knew we were as bad as they played Sunday. Ziggy I love your posts 99% of the time but you are feeling the same emotions I was 4 months ago I have come to realize I was selfish this man deserves better, you ask what does Brett want? I bet my pinky finger he would go to a contender. As far as the #1 pick goes he easily could justify one each team is different some have caps that explode in 2 years, what if Peyton Manning suffered a 18 month rehab injury you don't think they would give up a #1 to win a superbowl knowing in 2 years they are going to suck for five never say never. Favre is worth a #1 for 2 years as much as Branch is for 5.

[mngolf19]

Zig is right about no one trading a #1 for Favre. In addition to his potential to retire, his cap number is too big for most teams (indy) and his skills are diminishing, plus only a team that is on the cusp and just needs a QB would be interested. So, more likely a 3-4 pick if that.

[GBRulz]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but KC gave up it's 1st round pick to bring Montana over, didn't they?

Seattle just traded their first pick for Deion Branch. Deion Branch!
GB gave up it's first round pick to Atlanta for Favre.

Stranger things have happened. If a team needs a QB to top off putting together a winning team, they'll do it.

[Fritz]

I don't know if you can ever say "never." If a team wanted to trade its entire draft for Favre, , ala Herschel Walker or Ricky Williams, it'd be tough to say no.

Having said that, no one's going to do that as Mike Ditka's out of the league, so TT doesn't have to make that kind of tough decision.

Keep Favre.

[mngolf19]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but KC gave up it's 1st round pick to bring Montana over, didn't they?

Seattle just traded their first pick for Deion Branch. Deion Branch!
GB gave up it's first round pick to Atlanta for Favre.

Stranger things have happened. If a team needs a QB to top off putting together a winning team, they'll do it.

Your right Michele, but you can't compare players and trades. They are done for different reasons and under different circumstances. GB traded a 1 for Favre because his potential and low cap number. Same with Branch, low cap number and piece they needed to get over the top along with potential. Favre is on the downside, high cap number, few teams in the bidding.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Favre has zero trade value in the middle of this or any season. It takes at least a month to get timing down between QB and rest of offense.

The time to trade him was last spring, if it was going to be done.

I think Favre would have warmed-up to a trade if one was offered, I'm not suggesting it should have been done without getting a buy-in from him.

[ahaha]

Emotion is part of being a football fan. The thought of Brett Favre breaking Marino's records on another team makes me want to puke! I'm a selfish packer fan. I'd rather have Favre suck on a losing Packer team, than have him win another SB with some other team. What if that happened, and when Favre gets inducted into the HOF, you see lots of fans from that team wearing their Brett Favre jerseys. My intestines are churning from the thought. The Packers, and their fans, have given so much to Brett Favre. They've made him very wealthy, gave him the opportunity to achieve football greatness, and made him an icon. Unless we kick him to the curb, he should finish his career here. Hopefully, if things go terribly wrong this season, he retires with Grace. And, Aaron Rodgers will get his chance to play this year if we struggle mightily. If we traded Brett away, what veteren would we sign to back-up Rodgers? Jeff George? That is Hair-Brained!

[Fritz]

I'm just saying if a team offered its entire 2007 draft to TT for Brett Favre, how could you say no?

But that won't happen, so Favre gets to stay a Packer.

[ahaha]

I'm just saying if a team offered its entire 2007 draft to TT for Brett Favre, how could you say no?

But that won't happen, so Favre gets to stay a Packer.

It would take something this ridiculous for Favre to be traded now. People have to realize, Favre's value to the Packers and their fans is way more than what his trade value would be to some other team.