How does Favre fit in Thompson's plan?

[Harlan Huckleby]

But what is the value to the team? That's the point. He makes the team a bit more competitive, but keep Rodgers off the field.

Well, the other point is perhaps he would be happier playing for a winning team. I don't know that for sure, but judging by Favre's lack of enthusiasm the past 12 months, it's not a bad guess.

[MJZiggy]

There is even more to this than just football. It is actually in BF's best interest to finish his career here. Think of it this way. How many of you rabidly followed Reggie White when he played for the Panthers, the same way you followed him when he played here. His widow has a charity set up. Does she go to NC to promote it? Probably not. Does she go to Philly, maybe. She comes to Wis. and the charity makes money here. Brett also has a charity. When Katrina hit, it wasn't the fans from Dallas pouring money into the coffers. I thought I saw an article that said that so many people were donating supplies that they couldn't fit them all on the plane? He is an icon here. The press follows his every move because they know that the Packer faithful will tune in. If he leaves us now, we are interested in what he does, yeah, but the new fans are not likely to adopt him in the same way that we have and he loses the support of all the people who think it was a traitorous move to have allowed it to happen. Granted, that's not all of us, but with as much as we all loved Reggie, how many of you donated to his ministry after he left? Him moving would have quite an impact on the Fourward Foundation, just like his retirement will. Either way, it's not going to happen so I don't know why we're bothering to have this discussion. As M3 put it, "if I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet against him retiring here."

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But what is the value to the team? That's the point. He makes the team a bit more competitive, but keep Rodgers off the field.

Well, the other point is perhaps he would be happier playing for a winning team. I don't know that for sure, but judging by Favre's lack of enthusiasm the past 12 months, it's not a bad guess.

His value is his great legacy as a Packer. If he was traded and had success elsewhere that Packer legacy would be tainted.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Favre's legacy as a Packer will never be tainted. If Joe Montana had won a Super Bowl with the Chiefs, he would be no less of a revered 49er when he retired.

Favre's legacy SUFFERS as he finishes his career tossing interceptions in frustrating, futile campaigns. Then the off=season of pouting, "I'm not coming back unless the team makes some effort to be a winner." In case you haven't noticed, most of the analysts and fans around the country talk about Favre as a has-been.

If Favre hitched-on with Tampa Bay, say, and led them deep in the playoffs, his national reputation and exposure would only grow.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Either way, it's not going to happen so I don't know why we're bothering to have this discussion. As M3 put it, "if I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet against him retiring here."

I agree with you, Favre is going to retire as a Packer. I was suggesting it would have been in both parties interest to move him last spring. I also suggested it then, it's not just hindsight.

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Favre's legacy as a Packer will never be tainted. If Joe Montana had won a Super Bowl with the Chiefs, he would be no less of a revered 49er when he retired.

Favre's legacy SUFFERS as he finishes his career tossing interceptions in frustrating, futile campaigns. Then the off=season of pouting, "I'm not coming back unless the team makes some effort to be a winner." In case you haven't noticed, most of the analysts and fans around the country talk about Favre as a has-been.

If Favre hitched-on with Tampa Bay, say, and led them deep in the playoffs, his national reputation and exposure would only grow.

I totally disagree. His Packer legacy would be tainted from him having success with another team. Don't you think Eagles fans feel a pang of regret every time they think of Reggie White winning a Super Bowl with the Packers?

Favre's struggles right now are painful to watch, but they won't have any bearing on his legacy. Almost every great player that has ever played this game has played well in to decline. That great love for the game and competitive desire is usually what made them so great.

[wist43]

Favre doesn't fit into TT's plans...

TT knows he can't dump Favre b/c there would be a revolt... but, you have to know that TT can't wait to get rid of Favre.

[pbmax]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but KC gave up it's 1st round pick to bring Montana over, didn't they?

Montana was three years removed from winning a Super Bowl. Playoffs thenext year. He was injured the next season and backed up Young in his last year. Favre is more removed from his glory days.

[wist43]

The Packers gave up 86 1st round draft picks for John Hadl... there's always some idiot GM out there is willing to do something stupid.

Not that acquiring Favre would be stupid for another team... I still think he has a canon for an arm, and can still play at a high level - Favre's problem is the complete lack of talent around him.

[pbmax]

Favre's legacy as a Packer will never be tainted. If Joe Montana had won a Super Bowl with the Chiefs, he would be no less of a revered 49er when he retired.

Favre's legacy SUFFERS as he finishes his career tossing interceptions in frustrating, futile campaigns. Then the off=season of pouting, "I'm not coming back unless the team makes some effort to be a winner." In case you haven't noticed, most of the analysts and fans around the country talk about Favre as a has-been.

If Favre hitched-on with Tampa Bay, say, and led them deep in the playoffs, his national reputation and exposure would only grow.

Harlan, I don't think his legacy suffers from struggling on a bad team.

Columnists love to mention Joe DiMaggio, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Namath, Simpson and Montana and horrible examples of athletes refusing to leave with grace and dignity intact.

Elway was one of the few who did it as the media would have it, and he was LUCKY to hit the right coach, running game and RB at the tail end of his career.

Dopes in the press will write these articles because its a cut and paste no-think job from previous articles (I see one from Skip Bayless, Gordon Forbes and Andy Baggot). People will remember the good times.

[Merlin]

IMO, Favre is not in TT's plans. Rodgers is, however it does make you wonder why the coaching staff was looking at QB's when they came on board. I know that they weren't impressed with Rodgers in the mini-camps. So far, I haven't been impressed at all with him. He is better then last year but that isn't saying very much.

[The Shadow]

Favre, in return for chasing the records he wants so badly, must assume the role of caretaker while the Packers transition.
I would be neither surprised nor greatly disappointed if he was dealt after this season to a team like Dallas.
Next year, instead of the rookie hysteria, we will have young players now with experience , which can have a major positive effect.
I am looking forward to seeing what Rodgers can do at the helm after having had time to mature in the system.
I think that next year we :
Draft #1 (or sign as our top priority free agent) : an elite running back
Draft #1 (or sign as our top priority free agent) : an elite pass rusher
#2 : d. back
#3 : offensive lineman
#4 : receiver
#5 : fullback

[MJZiggy]

NOT DALLAS!!!

I haven't forgiven them yet.

[No Mo Moss]

The problem with what all of you are saying is you don't know what this team is yet. To assume what this team will or won't be in terms of success at this point is ridiculous. We have played one game and no one in the entire world knows what kind of team this is. I would say it is wild and premature speculation at this point.

[No Mo Moss]

What if the D gels and lives up to its potential? What is the O-line comes together? What if the Packers find themselves way closer to a championship level at the end of the year then anyone could imagine? What if with a nice Free Agent pick-up the Packers are a contender next year? You'd sure as hell hope you have Favre on that team, because Rodgers and Championship don't belong in the same sentence. I'm so sick of this "lets see what we got in him" shit. So what if he plays and sucks? Well that sure moved us along. I'm not saying he is destined to be bad, but I saw nothing in him this preseason against vanilla defenses to think that:

A. he is anywhere near ready to start

B. starting him now would do anything but shatter his confidence and ruin him as a player.