12 out Vs Chefs with COVID

[bobblehead]

Rodgers. He knowingly misled folks.

Who’s ready for the 2012 Ryan Braun press conference blaming Deno Laurenzi and the faulty chain of custody on the positive test?? 😂

Definitely your best post in awhile. I had some serious Ryan Braun hate for that one. So far, no hate on Rodgers from me (for this). If he tries to ruin another guys life to cover, then he is dead to me just like Lyin' Braun.

I will say this. Every article I read is throwing mad hate at Rodgers, but every one of them also adds the caveat "he didn't break any rules". Even his Halloween party apparently did not break any rules. I haven't gotten a clear answer on his pressers. I don't usually watch that stuff. Did he stand face to face with reporters on the sidelines after games answering Qs? That would seem a violation to me, but again, why did the NFL sit idly by and not seem to address it?

[bobblehead]

This.

He’s very sharp w/ word choice.

After watching Cousins get destroyed and Cole the same - why would anyone answer that straight.

He’s shared a number of other non fb statements that make me like non Football ARod more than the Packer QB.

Like last week - I think Lafleur will have a good scheme. Love should be motivated. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if they beat the chiefs.

I put his "lie" akin to this, and it plays to what you say about cousins and Cole. Back in 1973 if you were a homosexual, by and large you did NOT admit it. This didn't make the gay people bad people, it made them human and not wanting to face unfair backlash. So I guess your reaction to Rodgers "lie" depends on if you think the backlash is fair game or not. I personally do not, therefore I forgive him this particular sin. If you think that those who pass on the Jab are somehow horrible people who should be shamed and ostracized then him lying is probably unforgivable to you.

[bobblehead]

If you are talking about yes vs yea, there is no difference what so ever - it means exactly the same thing - lol

He lied like a rug

I tend to agree, this is a lie. But I post in FYI where I watch people of both stripes defend blatant lies by trying to parse words. Is it a lie to say ivermectin is a horse medication? I say yes, indeed it is because of the intent of portraying it that way. If you however say "no, that is factually correct" then I would tell you that Rodgers did NOT lie by the same standard. Yea, I think he lied...certainly mislead. Regardless of motive he certainly did...but so did CNN, and the poster who says Joe Rogan or anyone else took "horse dewormer" for covid. Pick your position. I'll go with you and from my viewpoint he lied, but I also like to point out hypocrisy from people who would say he didn't lie if he said something like the horse dewormer statement.

[bobblehead]

My respect for Rodgers has grown this season. He got big-headed in thinking he could push the GM around, so that's a bad mark for him. But I still thought he was acting on (misguided) principle and conducted himself well.

This insistence on overriding medical opinion is more of that pig-headed ego. I still like him for his good qualities (determination, thoughtful) but jeezuz what a doofus.

But what if HIS medical professional told him that 18k plus have died from this vaccine according to VAERS and generally that is reported about 1/10th of the real total and therefore his professional advise was that Rodgers should NOT get vaccinated? I mean, there are A LOT of medical professionals speaking out against this vaccine despite the fact they get threated with loss of license from politicians who have no medical training. I mean, is Rodgers not allowed to consider ALL the medical advice available, and not just that which is approved by non medical professionals?

Harlan let me add this. For centuries "medical professionals" considered homosexuality a mental illness. Now, that is offensive to us now, but it was the common belief for like...ever until very recently. This vaccine is less than a year old and what medical professionals say about it is RAPIDLY changing. Remember when it provided 94% efficiency against contracting the wuhan flu? That was a mere 6 months ago. Now the media will LIE repeatedly and claim "it was never intended to avoid contracting covid, just to minimize its effects". As such I don't blame Rodger or anyone who decides to wait for a clearer consensus. I also don't blame anyone that ran out to get it on day 1. The overwhelming evidence at this point (and we can debate the evidence elsewhere) is that the vaccine doesn't stop you from spreading it or contracting it beyond about a 3-6 month window. The same evidence says it does protect against serious illness. To me that makes it a personal choice, just like engaging in risky behavior that doesn't hurt others. Skydiving or smoking are easy examples. I have no problem if you jump out of a perfectly good airplane. I don't care if you smoke in a private setting or outdoors. Those activities hurt YOU and only YOU. The overwhelming evidence at this point is that not getting vaxxed only hurts you....and even that at an extremely minimal detriment.

[hoosier]

If Rodgers's "medical professional' told him that then they should have their license revoked.

[bobblehead]

If Rodgers's "medical professional' told him that then they should have their license revoked.

Thank you for making my point. Are you a doctor or do you have medical training? Yet you feel so superior that you would strip trained medical professionals of their credentials because you think you know more than they do. You clearly are allowed to make that judgement of a doctors credentials because you are so superior, but Rodgers is NOT allowed to do the same with his own body.

Think about that for a second. You are actually no better than the man you are condemning...worse actually because you want to FORCE him to your belief where HIS body is concerned. I really can't believe you don't understand what an incredible hypocrit you are.

[hoosier]

The question is not whether one has medical training or not. Most treatment decisions in the medical profession are based on scientific evidence.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Skydiving or smoking are easy examples. I have no problem if you jump out of a perfectly good airplane. I don't care if you smoke in a private setting or outdoors. Those activities hurt YOU and only YOU.

You had a nice, informative post going. Then you made a statement like this and lost all credibility…

See Onion thread in FYI.

[Joemailman]

Matt Schneidman

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Matt LaFleur reiterates that he’s fully confident the Packers have abided by all NFL COVID protocols in the “football space” at Lambeau Field. LaFleur said he doesn’t pay attention to protocols in media auditorium.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The overwhelming evidence at this point is that not getting vaxxed only hurts you....and even that at an extremely minimal detriment.

The evidence in your anti-vacc info bubble is overwhelming.

Vaccines have been the linchpin of public health for 80 years. We vaccinate for 24 diseases, many of them mandatory.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/terms/usvaccines.html

The arguments against covid vaccines can be made just as well against most vaccines. "Natural immunity better" is not just wrong it's irrational. Most vaccines don't work independently of Natural immunity. They reliably stimulate natural immunity. Almost everyone has greater immunity after vaccination. The ppl bragging about their strong natural immunity also boast that their symptoms were mild. Science sez this is a contradiction (for covid). It's also true (empirically, so far) that covid vacc works on broader range of variants than natural immunity alone.

I think Packers gonna lose draft picks and they deserve it for letting AR run wild.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Matt LaFleur reiterates that he’s fully confident the Packers have abided by all NFL COVID protocols in the “football space” at Lambeau Field. LaFleur said he doesn’t pay attention to protocols in media auditorium.

Nice try, Matt

[Tony Oday]

I will delete this since I guess I am not allowed to post this.

[scharpcheddar]

None of them have covid. It's all bullshit

[MadtownPacker]

Please lets make sure you listen yo your political betters and make sure you follow all their protocols for the flu so they can steal your money and freedom. DO NOT have a different opinion the science is 100% settled and there is nobody on Earth that knows more than the political elite and their doctor.

Damn, the regular posting season had been going well.

So do I ban tony for 2 weeks or 4? Same as anyone else who can help themselves, right stupid MFers?

[George Cumby]

Damn, the regular posting season had been going well.

So do I ban tony for 2 weeks or 4? Same as anyone else who can help themselves, right stupid MFers?

Things were going great until that dumbfuck Rodgers had fuck it all up for us.

The drama of the off-season was being washed away by a tide of gritty victories.

Now this bullshit.

*Sigh.*