12 out Vs Chefs with COVID

[scharpcheddar]

Things were going great until that dumbfuck Rodgers had fuck it all up for us.

The drama of the off-season was being washed away by a tide of gritty victories.

Now this bullshit.

*Sigh.*

Actually,in the entertainment league. The more drama, the deeper the Post season.
Favre rehab.
Lewis court case.
Kc player kicks a girl in hotel.
Etc.

[George Cumby]

^ At this point, who the fuck knows?

Esp after Goodell gifted his buddy, Gisele's Husband, the Owl last year.

[bobblehead]

The evidence in your anti-vacc info bubble is overwhelming.

Vaccines have been the linchpin of public health for 80 years. We vaccinate for 24 diseases, many of them mandatory.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/terms/usvaccines.html

The arguments against covid vaccines can be made just as well against most vaccines. "Natural immunity better" is not just wrong it's irrational. Most vaccines don't work independently of Natural immunity. They reliably stimulate natural immunity. Almost everyone has greater immunity after vaccination. The ppl bragging about their strong natural immunity also boast that their symptoms were mild. Science sez this is a contradiction (for covid). It's also true (empirically, so far) that covid vacc works on broader range of variants than natural immunity alone.

I think Packers gonna lose draft picks and they deserve it for letting AR run wild.

I don't need to argue this with you. I told you come to FYI and have the debate. You are following your religion and calling it science. I am not. I am following real world DATA. Not some theory from a lab dish. Not some bastardization of data from a CDC mouthpiece. I follow data like 750,000 Israeli have recovered from covid and 73 caught it a second time in over a years worth of data. On the other hand the fully vaccinated are dropping like flies at an increasing rate the further out from vaccination they are. And comparing a polio vaccine to and mRNA "vaccine" is apples and oranges. One is parts of the actual virus, the other is a spiked protein designed to create antibodies that defeat a spike protein. Once the spike Protein is eliminated the body no longer retains the information as it would from viral matter. Polio had a 30% death rate if I recall. Comparing past mandatory vaccines to this is a non starter.

[bobblehead]

The question is not whether one has medical training or not. Most treatment decisions in the medical profession are based on scientific evidence.

Agreed. Its just that I present factual real world evidence and the left counters with a study that shows a mask reduces the amount of spit you project. Wonderful, but the data still says a mask doesn't stop a virus in any place its been tried. And it doesn't matter what happens in a lab dish, if in the real world people who have recovered are getting reinfected at 1/13th the rate that a fully vaccinated person is in the real world. Science has to be backed by EVIDENCE or else its just theory. Your ilk is trying to play games with science when the entire planet is keeping data that blows up your narrative.

[RashanGary]

I don't need to argue this with you. I told you come to FYI and have the debate. You are following your religion and calling it science. I am not. I am following real world DATA. Not some theory from a lab dish. Not some bastardization of data from a CDC mouthpiece. I follow data like 750,000 Israeli have recovered from covid and 73 caught it a second time in over a years worth of data. On the other hand the fully vaccinated are dropping like flies at an increasing rate the further out from vaccination they are. And comparing a polio vaccine to and mRNA "vaccine" is apples and oranges. One is parts of the actual virus, the other is a spiked protein designed to create antibodies that defeat a spike protein. Once the spike Protein is eliminated the body no longer retains the information as it would from viral matter. Polio had a 30% death rate if I recall. Comparing past mandatory vaccines to this is a non starter.

The mRNA makes it different than the flu vaxx, but I’d compare this vaccine closest to the flu vaxx.

Both are leaky (allow for transmission and infection)

Both are used on seasonal illnesses

Both wane in effectiveness over time

Neither could ever lead to herd immunity

Comparing it to a vaccine like polio that prevents transmission and prevents infection AND lasts a lifetime is kind of silly. Polio vaccine also leads to herd immunity. It’s nothing like that.

[bobblehead]

Damn, the regular posting season had been going well.

So do I ban tony for 2 weeks or 4? Same as anyone else who can help themselves, right stupid MFers?

Sorry mad. All my posts were in direct response to HH and later Hoosier. I'll take my time if thats what you decide, but I have made my position clear. I won't sit by and let them take pot shots and then cry POLITICS when I respond.

[RashanGary]

I’m against the use of this vaccine and also the flu vaccine. I’m glad they did the polio vaccine and wiped out a major illness. Not every vaccine is good.

[Tony Oday]

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[RashanGary]

Ban for what?

We’re not allowed to talk politics in the football forum. You brought up the govt and made it all anti govt.

[Joemailman]

Nice try, Matt

Yeah, that maybe won't cut it, but he does have a point. There are people in the organization whose job it is to make sure that rules for the media room are being followed. That's not the job of the head coach. He has enough to do. Murphy should probably be answering some of these questions rather than LaFleur.

[hoosier]

Sorry mad. All my posts were in direct response to HH and later Hoosier. I'll take my time if thats what you decide, but I have made my position clear. I won't sit by and let them take pot shots and then cry POLITICS when I respond.

I've never ever "cried politics" about any post in here or anywhere else for that matter. That said, I find it interesting that you complain about a "them" who "cries politics" just after having characterized the posters you're debating as "the left." So who is politicizing things?

The problem with debating is that we aren't debating facts or evidence, we're stuck in this rut trying to debate with someone who throws out disproven assertions (like the one about the vax causing 150,000 deaths) as if they were established truths.

[hoosier]

Yeah, that maybe won't cut it, but he does have a point. There are people in the organization whose job it is to make sure that rules for the media room are being followed. That's not the job of the head coach. He has enough to do. Murphy should probably be answering some of these questions rather than LaFleur.

This little incident does seem to have shed a very public light on the way that Rodgers's continued tenure with the Pack has turned the organizational structure on its head. Ideally, it would be Murphy who would be jumping to the microphone to clarify what is going on and to own whatever transgressions the organization has committed or allowed to happen. But I guess that is not going to happen if an investigation seems imminent.

On the bright side, losing home field advantage for the playoffs hasn't seemed to worsen their chances of getting to the SB in recent decades.

[Harlan Huckleby]

On the bright side, losing home field advantage for the playoffs hasn't seemed to worsen their chances of getting to the SB in recent decades.

a lot better than losing draft picks

the most appropriate penalty would be a public flogging of someone in management. perhaps the most recent hire.

[smuggler]

If Rodgers's "medical professional' told him that then they should have their license revoked.

I'm so glad that you have no authority over any medical licenses. This sort of thinking destroys societies.

[bobblehead]

So I just read on acmepacking that other unvaxxed players such as kirk cousins and David Montgomery have been maskless in media rooms all season as well. Sorry, this is totally on the NFL. Perhaps the media as well since they absolutely knew cousins is unvaccinated.