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  • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    “Concussion is a myth.” - NFL Doctors, once upon a fucking time.

    Doctors will say whatever the fat pigs are paying them to say.
    Look at Aikman and Steve Young and a helluva lot of others - myth? maybe not, but greatly overrated. The fucked up people often attributed to concussions like Jim McMahon are in his and a lot of cases just drugged out or PCDed. I'm not gonna defend all doctors. A lot of them probably are just like you say, but the concussion shit is a bad example.

    The leftist dipshits posting in here have a standing invitation to bring their political idiocy to FYI - where this stupid thread should have been from the start. But I doubt they have the balls to do so.
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    • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      Look at Aikman and Steve Young and a helluva lot of others - myth? maybe not, but greatly overrated. The fucked up people often attributed to concussions like Jim McMahon are in his and a lot of cases just drugged out or PCDed. I'm not gonna defend all doctors. A lot of them probably are just like you say, but the concussion shit is a bad example.

      The leftist dipshits posting in here have a standing invitation to bring their political idiocy to FYI - where this stupid thread should have been from the start. But I doubt they have the balls to do so.
      Pretty sure the NFL initially denied the existence of CTE and other long-term brain maladies. If a fat pig is willing to write a fat check, there will always be a phony doctor/expert out there willing to fight for the pig’s lies.

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      • This vaccine mob is just weird. There have been really good vaccines, like the one that eradicated polio. But this one doesn’t even prevent infection or spread. Why defend it like it were a family member?
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
          This vaccine mob is just weird. There have been really good vaccines, like the one that eradicated polio. But this one doesn’t even prevent infection or spread. Why defend it like it were a family member?
          hey, hey take it to FYI!!!

          I actually did start to respond to Fosco's long airing of grievances in FYI. I got worn out, they aren't issues I care enough about, and I refreshed the page. I'll proceed directly to feats of strength.

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          • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
            Masks aren't attempting to filter out all the virus particles. They are most effective at reducing the velocity of the gas coming out of your maw, reducing spread. I suppose this basic fact didn't make it into the final edit of Arod's 500-page Encyclopedia of Covid Knowledge.

            Can you imagine how the NFL medical board reacted to Rodger's educational tome? They were probably caught somewhere between laughter and horror. After watching AR's rant, it's pretty obvious he doesn't know jack shit. He repeats one misconception after another.

            Interesting story in WSJ. Turns out that hospitalized patients with previous infections (natural immunity folk) are five times more common than vaccinated patients. True even though there are far more vaccinated people out there.
            Study of Hospitalized Covid-19 Patients Shows Vaccination Is Better Guard Than Prior Infection.
            CDC research adds to body of knowledge demonstrating strength of vaccines against contracting the disease


            edit: to extent masks are filtering, they're blocking tiny water droplets. Tiny, but still several orders of magnitude bigger than a virus.
            Summary
            What is already known about this topic?

            Previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19 vaccination can provide immunity and protection against subsequent SARS-CoV-2 infection and illness.

            What is added by this report?

            Among COVID-19–like illness hospitalizations among adults aged ≥18 years whose previous infection or vaccination occurred 90–179 days earlier, the adjusted odds of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 among unvaccinated adults with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection were 5.49-fold higher than the odds among fully vaccinated recipients of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine who had no previous documented infection (95% confidence interval = 2.75–10.99).


            Seriously? This is what you are staking your rep on? Covid-19...LIKE illness hospitalizations? What the fuck is that? They just didn't bother to test them to see if they had covid or not? Then they decided to "adjust" the odds of a lab confirmed covid among unvaccinated adults? So in other words, we didn't use actual real data and we didn't confirm covid, but here are our results. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! This is your proof. Ok, here is mine.



            Summary for you: A recent study by the Cleveland Clinic analyzing more than 50,000 of its employees over five months found that those who had been infected with COVID-19 did not benefit from vaccinations. During the study, researchers found that not a single person who had been previously infected with the virus became ill.

            No adjusted odds or covid LIKE illness. Want some more?

            Study based on Maccabi Health data finds that natural immunity based on prior infection offers considerably better protection than 2 doses.


            Study based on Maccabi Health data finds that natural immunity based on prior infection offers considerably better protection than 2 doses.

            Further, "the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher."

            How about this: https://assets.publishing.service.go...report_w33.pdf

            5.2 million people infected with the vid and 35k reinfected for about a .67% chance of reinfection....and this is a MINIMUM of 3 months after infection as opposed to the vaccine which unquestionably wanes after 3 months.

            More:

            Worldwide shortage of vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 infection while the pandemic is still uncontrolled leads many states to the dilemma whether or not to vaccinate previously infected persons. Understanding the level of protection of previous infection compared to that of vaccination is critical for policy making. We analyze an updated individual-level database of the entire population of Israel to assess the protection efficacy of both prior infection and vaccination in preventing subsequent SARS-CoV-2 infection, hospitalization with COVID-19, severe disease, and death due to COVID-19. Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals. ### Competing Interest Statement The authors have declared no competing interest. ### Funding Statement None ### Author Declarations I confirm all relevant ethical guidelines have been followed, and any necessary IRB and/or ethics committee approvals have been obtained. Yes The details of the IRB/oversight body that provided approval or exemption for the research described are given below: The study was approved by the Institutional Review Board of the Sheba Medical Center. Helsinki approval number: SMC-8228-21 All necessary patient/participant consent has been obtained and the appropriate institutional forms have been archived. Yes I understand that all clinical trials and any other prospective interventional studies must be registered with an ICMJE-approved registry, such as ClinicalTrials.gov. I confirm that any such study reported in the manuscript has been registered and the trial registration ID is provided (note: if posting a prospective study registered retrospectively, please provide a statement in the trial ID field explaining why the study was not registered in advance). Yes I have followed all appropriate research reporting guidelines and uploaded the relevant EQUATOR Network research reporting checklist(s) and other pertinent material as supplementary files, if applicable. Yes The data used in this study are sensitive and will not be made publicly available.


            In all of Israel as of April exactly ONE person who had been previously infected died. He was 80. I can name 3 fully vaxxed people who have died off the top of my head and I believe all of them were under 80. One was about 30.

            More from the best tracked country on the planet. Also a country that is all in on vaccinations and was doing booster shots when boosters weren't cool:
            Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.


            With a total of 835,792 Israelis known to have recovered from the virus, the 72 instances of reinfection amount to 0.0086% of people who were already infected with COVID.

            Yea. You keep reading your unbiased studies with covid LIKE illness with adjusted odds. I'll take my real hard data and shove it where the sun don't shine. Fact check: In the real world people who were previously infected with covid are well under a 1% chance to ever get infected again. TRUE

            Fact check: People who never had covid but are vaccinated are catching the china cough at unprecedented levels. TRUE

            I can do this all day. I can do the same with masks. I have done it over and over in FYI where this belongs. So come on over, but if you KEEP responding to me here with this crap I will as well until we both get banned for life which won't bother me all that much to be honest.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
              hey, hey take it to FYI!!!

              I actually did start to respond to Fosco's long airing of grievances in FYI. I got worn out, they aren't issues I care enough about, and I refreshed the page. I'll proceed directly to feats of strength.
              If you don't have the energy to debate it in FYI stop trying to debate it here.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/08/media...hip/index.html

                Rodgers was featured in just 1.5% of the nearly 400 State Farm ads on TV on Sunday, according to data from Apex Marketing, which tracks national ad buying. That's a massive decrease compared to the two previous Sundays, during which the insurance company featured Rodgers in about a quarter of its ads.
                State Farm didn't immediately return CNN Business' request for comment about the change. However, a spokesperson told Ad Age that it would be "inappropriate for us to comment on Aaron's vaccination status," and said it was focusing on new ads featuring former NFL player Terry Bradshaw.
                Rodgers said the media was on a "witch hunt" to find out which players were vaccinated and blamed reporters for him saying he was "immunized" back in August.
                If he does go back to doing PC's, that first one will be interesting.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • The woke mob was out in force yesterday

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                  • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    If you don't have the energy to debate it in FYI stop trying to debate it here.
                    I simply responded to your statement, cowboy.

                    Maybe I will respond to Fosco's airing of grievances with "the left". Problem is that much of what he said are alternative facts from my perspective. The T-Cell fixation seems a distraction. So many straw men, or at best sincere misunderstandings, of what the enemy is thinking.

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                    • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                      I simply responded to your statement, cowboy.

                      Maybe I will respond to Fosco's airing of grievances with "the left". Problem is that much of what he said are alternative facts from my perspective. The T-Cell fixation seems a distraction. So many straw men, or at best sincere misunderstandings, of what the enemy is thinking.
                      Ha. Please do. I’ll keep this to fb here but since you opened it / I’m not ‘the enemy’ nor ‘the right’.
                      The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                      Vince Lombardi

                      "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                      • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                        The woke mob was out in force yesterday

                        Bradshaw has a long standing well deserved reputation as an ignoramus.
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                        • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                          Bradshaw has a long standing well deserved reputation as an ignoramus.
                          OK, well Aaron woke up with 5 assholes today as Jimmy Johnson, Howey Long and Michael Strahan also ripped him new ones.

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                          • Refreshing to read that you call those assholes "assholes" hahahaha. Strahan is an ungrateful p.o.s. - didn't Rodgers once take a dive and give him the sack record at the time? Or was that Favre?
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                            • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                              Refreshing to read that you call those assholes "assholes" hahahaha. Strahan is an ungrateful p.o.s. - didn't Rodgers once take a dive and give him the sack record at the time? Or was that Favre?
                              No. That was Bert.

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                              • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                                The woke mob was out in force yesterday

                                See how well it’s worked for Kyrie, Cousins and many others.

                                Kareems over reaction was priceless today.

                                AR followed all protocols except masking after a negative test giving pressers to a room full of masked/vaxd reporters.

                                The whole team knew he was unvax - as were 5-10 other players.

                                This over reaction is exactly what many of us are saying what’s wrong - ie fake woke virtual signaling non sensical bs.

                                #clickbate #thursdaygames #17weeksandno2ndbye #onlytopplayoffbye #anticte #fakefocusonhealthamdsafety
                                The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                                Vince Lombardi

                                "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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