12 out Vs Chefs with COVID

[Fosco33]

Arod made that same stupid argument. Of course. The anti-vaxx ppl are "doing their own research" from same subset of facts. When you hear somebody mention "Israel" (discredited outlier data in sea of contradictory indicators) you got a live one.

Yawn. Just simply Google ‘israel covid’ and change the filter to ‘all time’ and look at the curves my friend.

Then replace the word israel with any other county not named China, New Zealand or a handful of others.

If someone says Google instead of ‘research’ does that not trigger you. Or if someone said UK or other open govts with full reporting… do the results scare you.

You realize more medical literature is released a year than most of the prior years combined. At that doctors ‘do the research’ too. Right? Have you ever listened to ZDoggMD? Super middle of the road practicing physician. I suppose his ‘research’ and ‘facts’ don’t line up with your preconceived notions therefore are ‘alternative’ facts.

And recall - I work in HC and have for 20+ years in clinical settings, governance, policy, predictive analytics and now lead up R&D at an hc AI firm… so I suppose my intellect, contextual knowledge base and decades of experience do actually mean I know what I’m talking about.

Wouldn’t you expect covid to have disappeared in countries with very high vax rates? If not - why not? Blame it on delta or kids (by the way, israel is waiting on the US to see how well that goes before jabbing the little ones).

[call_me_ishmael]

Is there a way to keep AROD, Adams, and Alexander ? That will be a challenge. I think AROD will want Adams back

They'll figure something out. You don't let good players go in a landscape where bad and okay players make a lot of money too.

[RashanGary]

State Farm has Rodgers back

https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1457740101086240772?s=21

[call_me_ishmael]

RG, you are such a tribal person. Rodgers isn't anti-vax, he is a professional football player and elite athlete with a dedicated medical staff on the payroll to treat him if something goes awry. That is obviously not typical of most folks. Most folks don't need to worry about a small injection of foreign substances when they're eating garbage all day every day.

Fosco and HH, let's keep it on the topic of Rodgers missing a week impacts the Packers, not on the broader topic of covid please. Nobody wants to be banned here.

[smuggler]

State Farm has Rodgers back

https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/s...086240772?s=21

That's fucking commendable by State Farm. I think he's wrong, but I'm not going to crucify him for his decision.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rodgers is a smart guy. He represents the anti vax crowd well.

[smuggler]

On the confidence/competence curve, there is no one currently in the right ascent when it comes to Covid-19. The only people worth trusting are the ones at the bottom of the valley, not the people at the initial confidence peak. Which is why Fauci lost his credibility with anyone that's been down this road before. He made proclamations from the wrong mountaintop.

[Harlan Huckleby]

And recall - I work in HC and have for 20+ years in clinical settings, governance, policy, predictive analytics and now lead up R&D at an hc AI firm… so I suppose my intellect, contextual knowledge base and decades of experience do actually mean I know what I’m talking about.

I never doubted your sophistication. But you are clearly anti-anti-anti-vax. I intend to refer to you as "Mr T" hence-forth, BTW. A lot of issues you focus on (vitamin D, T-cells, etc) provide cover for anti-vaxers and distract from core truth that vacc is by far the best tool we have.

I did a 20+ year tour of duty in medical research as a programmer. genetics/microbiology, then neurology, then medical physics. I am not as smart as you in medicine but am smart adjacent.

Wouldn’t you expect covid to have disappeared in countries with very high vax rates? If not - why not?

Yes. THere are mysteries.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rodgers isn't anti-vax, he is a professional football player and elite athlete with a dedicated medical staff on the payroll to treat him

He's an anti-vacc looney bird. Shocking but true. He's bought into a lot of nonsense. Intelligence does not save us from lunacy. Intelligent ppl often just dig in deeper to wrong-headed cults.

[Fosco33]

I never doubted your sophistication. But you are clearly anti-anti-anti-vax. I intend to refer to you as "Mr T" hence-forth, BTW. A lot of issues you focus on (vitamin D, T-cells, etc) provide cover for anti-vaxers and distract from core truth that vacc is by far the best tool we have.

I did a 20+ year tour of duty in medical research as a programmer. genetics/microbiology, then neurology, then medical physics. I am not as smart as you in medicine but am smart adjacent.

Yes. THere are mysteries.

I pity the fool who doesn’t show humility or empathy given our gross ignorance on full display daily.

I think ‘anti vax’ folks are typically misinformed but the incentives, shaming, mandates, etc don’t influence the way we’d expect and the consequence from many levels may not be worth the risk. Biden’s mandate will be easy fodder in 24.

As alt-middle or loose libertarian - my bias in hearing ARod speak is on full display. But as a curious learner - outside of some of his wackier sound bites (fertility) - I still don’t have a problem with him on this topic.

I take motion sickness pills for hangovers - is there evidence this works, no. Is the drug OTC, widely used and safe, yes. So why do we care how people treat themselves.

[RashanGary]

He's an anti-vacc looney bird. Shocking but true. He's bought into a lot of nonsense. Intelligence does not save us from lunacy. Intelligent ppl often just dig in deeper to wrong-headed cults.

Lol. You scramble so hard to dismiss this

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd like to see Rodgers lose the damn John Wick ugly long-hair and beard crap now that Halloween is over.

[Freak Out]

I pity the fool who doesn’t show humility or empathy given our gross ignorance on full display daily.

I think ‘anti vax’ folks are typically misinformed but the incentives, shaming, mandates, etc don’t influence the way we’d expect and the consequence from many levels may not be worth the risk. Biden’s mandate will be easy fodder in 24.

As alt-middle or loose libertarian - my bias in hearing ARod speak is on full display. But as a curious learner - outside of some of his wackier sound bites (fertility) - I still don’t have a problem with him on this topic.

I take motion sickness pills for hangovers - is there evidence this works, no. Is the drug OTC, widely used and safe, yes. So why do we care how people treat themselves.

I REALLY don't care what Arod does in his personnel life. Win football games. If he comes within 10 feet of my grandkids I'll shoot his stupid ass though. lol

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'd like to see Rodgers lose the damn John Wick ugly long-hair and beard crap now that Halloween is over.

I think he looks good, youthful

[Fosco33]

Lambeau Field
81k fans

No vax or mask requirements for fans
WI adults - say 70% (generous) are vaxd

25k unvax, unmasked packers fans drinking, not distancing, yelling/spitting (albeit outside)

And people are ‘worried’ that Aaron ‘misled’ them while following almost every protocol.

We are truly stupid people