12 out Vs Chefs with COVID

[RashanGary]

That’s horrific especially with only 4,000 in two years dying in the 18-29 range with covid. That’s three times less likely to happen than a vaers death. Incredibly rare.

It’s especially weird that he was prescribed ivermectin. Most doctors are not prescribing that for Covid at this time.

A lot of vaccinated are dying with Covid. Hard to say if that would have made a difference.

[call_me_ishmael]

Jeez that is rough Thunder Dan, condolenceses to your family.

[Sparkey]

That’s horrific especially with only 4,000 in two years dying in the 18-29 range with covid. That’s three times less likely to happen than a vaers death. Incredibly rare.

It’s especially weird that he was prescribed ivermectin. Most doctors are not prescribing that for Covid at this time.

A lot of vaccinated are dying with Covid. Hard to say if that would have made a difference.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/do...id-19-vaccines

[Harlan Huckleby]

A lot of vaccinated are dying with Covid. Hard to say if that would have made a difference.

All we know is that getting vaccinated greatly reduces chance of death, driving drunk is more dangerous than driving sober, and wearing a condom sometimes works.

But who can say? Who can say?

[RashanGary]

All we know is that getting vaccinated greatly reduces chance of death, driving drunk is more dangerous than driving sober, and wearing a condom sometimes works.

But who can say? Who can say?

The vaxxed aren’t fairing well enough for these analogies.

[Bretsky]

A lot of vaccinated are dying with Covid. Hard to say if that would have made a difference.

Your viewpoint is amazingly baffling to me

[Bretsky]

The vaxxed aren’t fairing well enough for these analogies.

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Yes they are; like you are taking an AROD like stance and ignoring the data, It's mindblowing to me how we can't at least acknowledge it improves the odds

[smuggler]

only 4,000 in two years dying in the 18-29 range with covid. That’s three times less likely to happen than a vaers death.

According to the resource at the CDC VAERS web data portal, "only" 121 people aged 18-29 have been reported as a death due to a Covid vaccine reaction.

This is the link for the database: http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

Can't directly speak to rates just with this number, but it's difficult to imagine the odds of death from vaccine are worse than the odds of death from Covid, at least in people with health compromise(s).

[RashanGary]

According to the resource at the CDC VAERS web data portal, "only" 121 people aged 18-29 have been reported as a death due to a Covid vaccine reaction.

This is the link for the database: http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

Can't directly speak to rates just with this number, but it's difficult to imagine the odds of death from vaccine are worse than the odds of death from Covid, at least in people with health compromise(s).

I was going with total vaers deaths. I didn’t know it went by age. And yeah, it would be surprising if vaccine deaths outweighed Covid deaths. That’s not happening.

But still a younger person is so unlikely to die from Covid and the vaccines aren’t doing much to help, it’s reasonable to forgo the vaccine.

[RashanGary]

I’m not getting a vaccine because Covid is so unlikely to harm me. I just don’t see the point. I’ve never gotten the flu shot for the same reason.

If I had a mandate or reason to get one, I’d get one. I’m definitely not in the group of people who think the vaxx is super dangerous.

I just don’t think it’s necessary.

I wouldn’t get it if i was older either, because it makes people really sick and I wouldn’t want to get really sick at a vulnerable age.

By and large, I don’t buy into the scary germ theory that they’ve blown up about Covid. They’ve exaggerated deaths and made policies that lead to more death.

[Harlan Huckleby]

But still a younger person is so unlikely to die from Covid and the vaccines aren’t doing much to help, it’s reasonable to forgo the vaccine.

Not reasonable for anybody eligible for vaccine to forgo it. You get infected less often and are infectious for a shorter period. So you are less of a threat to spread to others. Reducing your own threat of death (by a factor of 10 or so) is important too.

There is a new vaccine for malaria in children that is only 30% effective yet it is considered a BFD for containing malaria in Africa. All the calculations are not at the individual level. Damping down an infectious disease through widespread vacc in a community, along with other measures, can snuff out disease.

Refusing vaccination is anti-social behavior.

[RashanGary]

Not reasonable for anybody eligible for vaccine to forgo it. You get infected less often and are infectious for a shorter period. So you are less of a threat to spread to others. Reducing your own threat of death (by a factor of 10 or so) is important too.

There is a new vaccine for malaria in children that is only 30% effective yet it is considered a BFD for containing malaria in Africa. All the calculations are not at the individual level. Damping down an infectious disease throughout widespread vacc in a community, along with other measures, can snuff out disease.

Refusing vaccination is anti-social behavior.

If it stopped infection and spread, I’d get it for the community. It doesn’t. It’s just like the flu shot.

[RashanGary]

I think generally, a lot of people are confused and wrong about how dangerous Covid is. It’s not very dangerous.

And then the second misconception is in how effective the vaccine is. It was never going to lead to heard immunity because it doesn’t prevent infection or spread.

So I think you’re just confused, HH. You’ve boughten into a lot of fear mongering and media hype that wasn’t true.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If it stopped infection and spread, I’d get it for the community. It doesn’t. It’s just like the flu shot.

The flu shot is only about half as effective as the covid shot. But that is still critically imortant in reducing flu throughout the community. I think only half of adults get shot, or was it less?

Can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[RashanGary]

The flu shot is only about half as effective as the covid shot. But that is still critically imortant in reducing flu throughout the community. I think only half of adults get shot, or was it less?

Can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

It looks like 50% or so according to google.

I think we’re better off keeping our immune systems sharp and just getting these illnesses annually.

What they did with polio was remarkable though. I’m pro vaxx in some ways.