Mid-season Check In - Is Aaron Back Next Year?

[Joemailman]

Does anyone else think Preston has improved from last year?

Kind of hard to say with Z being injured, but right now I'd rather keep Preston.

Preston has had a great year, and I think will get a contract extension to stay here and lower his 2022 cap number. I think it's too risky to do that with Z due to his back problems.

[bobblehead]

I think he absolutely understands his legacy is about Super Bowls. His displeasure with the front office was about selecting Love, who would provide nothing to help get a Rodgers led team to the Super Bowl, rather than getting a player that would.

Rodgers has repeatedly said this isn't about money, and I believe him. He's got plenty. He wants rings. He wants to know the organization will go out of its way to bring in talent that can help now, not 5 years from now. I think the Packers have done a reasonable job this year convincing him of that, and if they can work with him to establish a 2-3 year roadmap of how to stay at the top, I think he's likely to stay.

How many times do I need to see this statement disproven. They all demand to be paid every cent they can squeeze out. Brady has taken a lot of "less than market" deals. Other than him I can't recall it being done by a star. You might get a Wes Mathews for a discount at the end of his career. But game changers demand top dollar. See: Watt, JJ He claimed it was about winning, then signed a deal that almost everyone on this board agreed was a joke given his history of staying on the field. Rodgers will sign an extension of 3 years (4 including the one left). It will make him one of the top paid QBs in the league and it will relieve the cap in 2022 and 2023 and then become an albatross for 2 years. That is exactly what will happen. Bookmark this and taunt me if he signs something at any real discount.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers is playing too well to get rid of. It will be interesting to see what players are kept and what players are let go.

Stokes was a lucky pick. Meyers looked like a good pick.

Next year we need to get lucky and hit on three more. If we bring in 5 good ones, we can afford to lose 5 good ones and still be in it.

The salary cap is 208M we are over by 42M

If we cleaned house

Z 16M savings
P 12M savings
Amos 8M savings
Turner 5M savings
Cobb 9M savings

That’s about 50M in savings. Resigning Rodgers could save another 15M. Resigning Jaire could save a little. We might be able to keep Adams and Rodgers if we part ways with a handful of the other solid players who are high paid.

I think it will be more like 15m by re signing Rodgers. 9m from Cobb. Z is gone for 16m. That is 40m. A little finagling and fudging will give us room to re sign Adams. The losses will be Douglas and Campbell that we won't be able to keep. Probably will lose a couple solid players who contribute, but we just can't pay. The core can be retained.

[call_me_ishmael]

How many times do I need to see this statement disproven. They all demand to be paid every cent they can squeeze out. Brady has taken a lot of "less than market" deals. Other than him I can't recall it being done by a star. You might get a Wes Mathews for a discount at the end of his career. But game changers demand top dollar. See: Watt, JJ He claimed it was about winning, then signed a deal that almost everyone on this board agreed was a joke given his history of staying on the field. Rodgers will sign an extension of 3 years (4 including the one left). It will make him one of the top paid QBs in the league and it will relieve the cap in 2022 and 2023 and then become an albatross for 2 years. That is exactly what will happen. Bookmark this and taunt me if he signs something at any real discount.

Totally agree. Rodgers will be the highest paid QB in dollars earned the next few years. Tough to compare with Mahomes contract since Mahomes is so long and cap will obviously keep going up. Rodgers will be highest paid over the next few years and rightfully so, he's playing the best.

[Joemailman]

Mahomes' contract averages 45M but doesn't include a lot of guaranteed money. It's mostly roster bonuses. Rodgers might accept slightly less than that per year but would want more guaranteed money. It's doable with the salary cap reportedly going up to 250M by 2024.

[call_me_ishmael]

Mahomes' contract averages 45M but doesn't include a lot of guaranteed money. It's mostly roster bonuses. Rodgers might accept slightly less than that per year but would want more guaranteed money. It's doable with the salary cap reportedly going up to 250M by 2024.

Homeboy is 38 though, I'm worried about him still being healthy in 2024 !! I think they'll figure out a way to make it work with voidable years. I don't think they will care much about paying him for a few years after he's gone if he stays 'cause they'll have a rookie QB and be rebuilding then anyway. Can tie it in with consistent PR appearances, etc.

[texaspackerbacker]

How many times do I need to see this statement disproven. They all demand to be paid every cent they can squeeze out. Brady has taken a lot of "less than market" deals. Other than him I can't recall it being done by a star. You might get a Wes Mathews for a discount at the end of his career. But game changers demand top dollar. See: Watt, JJ He claimed it was about winning, then signed a deal that almost everyone on this board agreed was a joke given his history of staying on the field. Rodgers will sign an extension of 3 years (4 including the one left). It will make him one of the top paid QBs in the league and it will relieve the cap in 2022 and 2023 and then become an albatross for 2 years. That is exactly what will happen. Bookmark this and taunt me if he signs something at any real discount.

I mostly agree with this. It in fact is mostly about money. However, it's more pride and perception of money for the high end guys like Rodgers. They obviously know that the face value of a back loaded contract doesn't mean much, but it looks good in reports about them being the "highest paid" or damn near it.

As I said, the only one we likely won't retain is Zadarius. Preston we should and will keep - extended as somebody said to take the sting out of the cap situation. Obviously we retain Adams; Ditto Jaire. I don't think we let Campbell go or maybe even Douglas. We really ought to be able to satisfy them with nice bonuses and backloaded salaries which don't hurt the cap significantly. Cobb I think gets cut, but I think it is with the understanding that he will probably end up right back in Green Bay for drastically less money - unless he can find somebody else to drastically overpay him.

[Joemailman]

I'm not sure Douglas will be back. When you already have Stokes and Alexander, you don't need to pay big money to a guy who would be your #3 CB. Better off using the money on Campbell.

[texaspackerbacker]

That may be true, but that choice shouldn't and probably won't need to be made.

[bobblehead]

That may be true, but that choice shouldn't and probably won't need to be made.

Agreed. There is no choice. We can NOT afford both. The true choice is if we can afford one of them. And that isn't really the choice. Its who we have to jettison to afford one.

[texaspackerbacker]

Wrong. It can easily be done with a reasonable cap hit. They should keep both, and I'm fairly sure they will.