Studs and Duds, Burnt Sienna's:

[texaspackerbacker]

The O Line was a major dud today - a little less than mediocre in the first half, and downright horrible in the second half.

LaFleur - who I also like - was a dud for going to "run first", almost always a mistake, in the second half.

Barry, assuming he designed the D, gets dud status too. You just can't stick with Cover Two shell coverage when our people on the outside are getting run over so easily and/or missing so many tackles.

Individually, nobody was bad enough to be a dud, and nobody, even Rodgers deserves stud status. Sure, Douglas got the picks, but he got beat a few times too. Ditto that for Sullivan.

[RashanGary]

Nijman re entered the game. He was stud x5 against the probable defensive player of the year. Honestly, i was a huge fan, but he has exceeded anything i imagined for this season. He is playing near what i figured his career ceiling would be.

I remember when you picked him out. I don’t have the eye for OL talent but you said at that time all of the things the coaches and players say about him now. Great feet, great movement for his size, etc. I actively doubted you and doubted Nijman. I remember thinking at the time, if bobble is right, he’s got an eye for OL because you were so sure of him having the talent. It was more than just his height and weight. You were all about his movement.

[RashanGary]

The O Line was a major dud today - a little less than mediocre in the first half, and downright horrible in the second half.

LaFleur - who I also like - was a dud for going to "run first", almost always a mistake, in the second half.

Barry, assuming he designed the D, gets dud status too. You just can't stick with Cover Two shell coverage when our people on the outside are getting run over so easily and/or missing so many tackles.

Individually, nobody was bad enough to be a dud, and nobody, even Rodgers deserves stud status. Sure, Douglas got the picks, but he got beat a few times too. Ditto that for Sullivan.

Jones kinda played like a stud. He had a couple wow runs. He looked so damn quick and fast and balanced.

[Bretsky]

Jones kinda played like a stud. He had a couple wow runs. He looked so damn quick and fast and balanced.

It just doesn't seem like they are using AJO right. In first half he was just flanking out on no mans land at about the LOS and getting passes when AROD had heavy pressure. FINALLY in half two they let him run a few route and got him going. But only for one series really. Something is really off there; we want more production out of AJO considering what we paid him.

[call_me_ishmael]

Nijman re entered the game. He was stud x5 against the probable defensive player of the year. Honestly, i was a huge fan, but he has exceeded anything i imagined for this season. He is playing near what i figured his career ceiling would be.

He is really looking like a great back-up. Packers have the deepest OL in the nfl it turns out, my god. Good call on this dude, you’ve been on his name for years.

[call_me_ishmael]

It just doesn't seem like they are using AJO right. In first half he was just flanking out on no mans land at about the LOS and getting passes when AROD had heavy pressure. FINALLY in half two they let him run a few route and got him going. But only for one series really. Something is really off there; we want more production out of AJO considering what we paid him.

They’ve gotta get him more touches. He needs to get 5 route passes and 10 hand offs per game. Dillon is the work horse but Jones is the stud.

[RashanGary]

Jones is moving really well right now. He looks as good as I’ve ever seen him. Dillon has done a lot this year and is a big part of the reason Jones is so fresh. But damn, Jones is fresh and needs the ball.

[bobblehead]

He is really looking like a great back-up. Packers have the deepest OL in the nfl it turns out, my god. Good call on this dude, you’ve been on his name for years.

I confess I was beginning to doubt it because we didnt see him at all last year. And honestly I didnt want to see him start 7 games this year. And honestly he still gets help at times, but that is just smart on MiLFs part.

[bobblehead]

As for Jones I just think they are saving his body for the playoffs. Getting trust in Dillon at the same time.

[RashanGary]

As for Jones I just think they are saving his body for the playoffs. Getting trust in Dillon at the same time.

These next two games are playoff games. We win and we get a bye week. That’s the same as winning a playoff game. It’s Jones time right now. He looks so damn fresh. You gotta feed that guy right now.

[Joemailman]

It Looked like Jones got banged up late in the game.

[Upnorth]

Same knee as before. He needs to be limited.

And rodgers toe must be getting worse, his ball placement looks off.

[texaspackerbacker]

Rodgers said in the postgame press conference that he didn't even get the pain shot this week. I would hope he does that as a preventative even if his toe is better next week, as he did make a couple of less than 100% passes after getting stepped on. The bigger problem, though, was that LaFleur got away from what worked in the first half and went to a run first offense in the second half - a recipe for failure. LaFleur seems to be good about learning from his mistakes. Hopefully he will about this one. He even talked about how he "took the foot off the gas". As good as Jones and Dillon are (in that order), they are not gonna get much yardage with this O Line unless the passing attack can dominate and running the ball can be the change of pace.

The other problem that needs to be cleaned up is the D. Cousins is a fairly mediocre QB, limited talent, but he tends to not throw the ball to the other team like Baker Mayfield did - the only thing that saved our D against Cleveland. I remember, for better or worse, Pettine's D seemed to be able to effectively shut down a team's running game OR their passing game, but seldom both. That's why so often we had to win in shootouts. I'm confident we can outscore the Vikings if it comes down to that. Barry got hired, though, as a supposed upgrade to Pettine. Hopefully he can crack the whip a little bit and figure out a way to stop both the run and pass.

[call_me_ishmael]

My current theory on the D is they are just running out of steam and getting some tape on them. They are not nearly as deep as the offense. They desperately need Z back to give the pass rushers a rest.

[Fritz]

I feel the same way my Canuck friend. I was yelling at the tv every Browns 3rd down. Seemed like they converted every one. I'm complaining about a win but I feelike there is a lot oof tape on how to move the ball against the Pack.

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I feel the way I do after a loss. Were it not for Baker Mayfield and some especially stupid playcalling from the Browns on that last drive, this is an ugly, ugly loss.

The Packer defense looks nothing like the unit playing D a month or six weeks ago. They look listless, guys using the same pass rush moves over and over, defenders running up to a nearly-finished-but-not-quite play and just watching. Secondary scratching their heads about botched assignments.

They're going to get bounced quickly if they don't re-group. They've lost focus.

And I think losing Elgton Jenkins is going to kill this offense in the postseason. Jones doesn't have much room to operate, and Dillon is getting three yards a pop instead of six. Rodgers's pocket is getting smaller, too.